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Metalleaf said:
Well, you know what I mean, there are always cases like that, even in sub par draft years.
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All I'm saying is that I have faith that if our second rounder were to end up around 36 or 37, that Burkie could trade us into the first round (say around 27-28) and Morrison and Bergmann could find us a player that's as good as one likely to be picked in the 10-14 range.
 
Corky27 said:
Burke isn't building a team for 5 years from now, like it or not. Burkes team needs to peak 2-3 years from now. Mac is or should be part of the core we're building around. Unless a 1st line center is involved, none of these guys should be involved and by 'these guys' i mean kuley, grabbo, mac, kessel, bozzy, steeger.
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No team is going to offer up it's top line centre this year, certainly not for Mccarthur of all people on his own. You say you want a 1st line centre yet your not willing to part with any of the players you mentioned above. Ask yourself this, if a team asked you to give them Kessel, you'd want the maximum return right? Well the other 29 NHL teams are no different. A 1st line centre will likely cost: 1st rounder, Grabo, and one of either Kadri or Schenn.
 
MacAttack is only going to get $2.5 or so from Burke. No need to worry on that front, and thus no need to think about trading him.

Stupid Thrashers.
 
Its not about what Burke is willing to pay. Burke has already dumped a bunch of guys for overvaluing themselves (in his eyes). Its about what MacArthur wants.

If he scores 65+ points he could get $4 mill from some team if he wants it.
 
Give him a few years at 2.5 to prove this year is not a fluke. If he keeps it up this pace of play, then you reward him for it
 
When you have guys like Matt Stajan and David Backes going for $3.5+ how are you supposed to get MacArthur to take $2.5 after a 70 point season?
 
I'm telling you, between $2.5 and $3 is all he'll get for his first really good year.

But he'll get three years, and the stability. He'll sign for that. mark my words.
 
The fact that he has clicked with Grabs and Kully will be a big reason for him to stay. If that line can keep the chemistry going this year I think he'll take the "discount" and stick it out for his pay day.

Some teams will be willing to overpay but the question is how much seeing he is an RFA? What is the compensation for 4 million?
 
IF Mccarthur can reach 70 pts this year, then yes he'll probably demand $3-3.5M, Burke will over $2-2.25, they'll meet in the middle I think (2.5) for 3-4 years. I can't see Burke going north of $3M though.
 
No. But he could just go to arby, which will probably give him $3.5+, and then bounce after a year.

Either way, Burke has said he'd move him if he isn't going to sign him.
 
His hesitation in doing it, is it robs the team NOW of a shot at a wild run at a spot in the show.

If it was March deadline, he would be packing his bags. Imagine him having a first and third rounder, he would be unstenched from the Kessel trade for the most part. He would love that.
 
teeds said:
His hesitation in doing it, is it robs the team NOW of a shot at a wild run at a spot in the show.

If it was March deadline, he would be packing his bags. Imagine him having a first and third rounder, he would be unstenched from the Kessel trade for the most part. He would love that.
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Teeds, the leafs are 11 points out, they'd have to play .600% hockey or better just to have a shot at 8th spot, it's not happening. The only obtainable goal is to get out of the lottery. Burke needs to stop these unhealthy attachements to his players, this is not a daycare, it's a business. He needs to look at all options that can help improve the team, and if moving Mccarthur helps, then he needs to at least take a good long look at it.
 
Pronger84 said:
No team is going to offer up it's top line centre this year, certainly not for Mccarthur of all people on his own. You say you want a 1st line centre yet your not willing to part with any of the players you mentioned above. Ask yourself this, if a team asked you to give them Kessel, you'd want the maximum return right? Well the other 29 NHL teams are no different. A 1st line centre will likely cost: 1st rounder, Grabo, and one of either Kadri or Schenn.
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Well maybe you should read what a wrote before you respond. I said that I don't see the point in trading any of our core young players UNLESS they are part of a package that brings in a #1 center. Never did I say that Mac would land us one. But I see no point in trading him for a pick that if we're lucky; would be a player like Mac in the future. I see it as somewhat of a sideways move. Mac is still relatively young and is fitting in great in Toronto. Which in it's self is no easy feat. Having said that, IF a team were to come along and offer us a #1 or potential #1 center in exchange for a package that included one or more of our young core Burke would be silly not to think about it.
 
leafman101 said:
When you have guys like Matt Stajan and David Backes going for $3.5+ how are you supposed to get MacArthur to take $2.5 after a 70 point season?
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Because both of them passed on Unrestricted free agency.

MacA still has 1 yr left after this year until he's reached 27 yrs old (27 yrs old, or 7 years of service for unrestricted, whichever comes first). If what he's said in the media is to be believed, he'd place a premium on a long term deal because he's sick of moving around. I don't think there's too much of a chance of him passing up on something like a 3/7.5 type deal.
 
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