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Leaf Rumours

While the increasing amount of flack that the Leafs (as a franchise AND as a current roster) take is obviously not helping, I tend to think that there are players who aspire to play for the Leafs (or at least original six/big market teams) and those who would rather not. Any player who would rather not isn't someone I want on this team anyway.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
i would think long and hard about that big proposal.
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Of course you would, you'd be getting the best forward in the deal, and the best defender in the deal...as well as jettisoning one of the worst contracts in the league.

Bolland and Steeg are a wash, but we need wingers you need Centers.
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No they're not. In fact, Bolland's inability to step up in the void left by the rest of the depth guys Chicago moves is one of the key reasons Chicago is where they are this year. On top of that, Bolland's 3.375 million with 3 years left on it is pricey for what he brings.



It would be nice to have the flexability....and im not sure how much we lose talent wise this year.
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You'd lose no talent. You'd get better and more cap flexible. We would be doing Chicago a huge favour. Put another way

Total Cap Commitment in Proposed Deal:

Chicago - 55.28 million
Toronto - 6.86 million

You're insane if you think a few draft picks makes up the economic difference in that deal. Add Komisarek to that deal and we're talking. The only way we should touch Campbell is if somewhere in the deal, we're getting rid of the Komi contract.

With that said, this is a ridiculous idea when re signing Kaberle is so ****ing easy.
 
Yeah, just re-sign Kaberle, and don't touch Campbell with a ten-foot pole. And reality check MNIJ: if Chicago dumping that horrendous contract was as simple as tossing a couple of draft picks along with him, then they'd have dumped him long ago, and at least a couple of Buff, Steeg and Ladd would still be in Chicago. So unless Bob Gainey gets a GM job somewhere, no one's touching that contract with a ten foot pole unless the Hawks are taking back a comparably toxic contract.
 
teeds said:
Well Burkes holding on to Barney has created the inevitable. Look at this poll of 300 NHL players. Gentlemen, this city is screwed for years.



Which Team Would You Least Like To Play On?
1) New York Islanders - 27%
2) Atlanta Thrashers - 7%
3) Toronto Maple Leafs - 5%
4) Florida Panthers - 2%

The Leafs have missed the playoffs for five straight years and this season could be the sixth. Players want to be on a competitive team, so it's understandable why they would rank Toronto as the third lowest team in the league. Losing and intense 24/7 media spotlight can overshadow the biggest hockey market and a passionate fan base and make Toronto an undesirable team to play for.

Which Coach Would You Least Like To Play For?
1) Ron Wilson - 24%
2) John Tortorella - 15%
3) Marc Crawford - 14%
4) Brent Sutter - 10%
5) Mike Keenan - 9%
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The Wilson thing at 24% is a problem.

But 15 out of 300 players not wanting to play for the Leafs, something tells me we wouldn't want those 15 losers anyway, and that they probably consist of a bunch of ex-Leafs including Blake and McCabe.
 
Yeah, that many guys not wanting to play for Wilson is A) not surprising at all & B) a huge problem

A few guys not wanting to play in front of the bright lights though, doesn't surprise me.
 
Yeah, 70+ players listing Wilson as the coach they'd least like to play for is pretty effing disturbing. But nothing we don't know already. He's really sarcastic, does a great job of throwing players under the bus to the media, makes terrible personnel decisions and manages to come off as really condescending and arrogant despite three brutal years now.
 
I'd guess that more players have played for Wilson than for any other current coach in the league.
 
hockeylover said:
Yeah, 70+ players listing Wilson as the coach they'd least like to play for is pretty effing disturbing. But nothing we don't know already. He's really sarcastic, does a great job of throwing players under the bus to the media, makes terrible personnel decisions and manages to come off as really condescending and arrogant despite three brutal years now.
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Your also forgetting he has no set system, he plays favourites (Beauchimen, Lebda, Mitchell) and likes to shit on others (Kessel, Kadri, Kaberle), also the fact that he juggles lines every 30 seconds doesnt bode well either.
 
Yeah, he's definitely close to the top of that list. Terry Murray, Maurice, Lemaire, & Crawford would give him a run, but that's about it.
 
Yeah, but how many players have gone through Buffalo and are still in the league?

All the other coaches mentioned have had numerous stops and coached more current NHL'ers than Ruff has.



With that out of the way though....Lindy Ruff has still not been offered a contract for next season.
 
Guys we have nothing to trade except good pieces. No one wants our filth. So nothing will happen in a big way. Maybe they get rid of Bmen, and maybe someone takes a shot on Giguere, but apart from that, he gives up a good piece to get a weirder piece.
 
hockeylover said:
Yeah, 70+ players listing Wilson as the coach they'd least like to play for is pretty effing disturbing. But nothing we don't know already. He's really sarcastic, does a great job of throwing players under the bus to the media, makes terrible personnel decisions and manages to come off as really condescending and arrogant despite three brutal years now.
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The sad thing is that Burke has, and likely will continue, to tie his fate to Wilson's. They're in this thing together, through thick and through thin, and I just can't see Burke firing Wilson under any circumstances. Which means, when Wilson goes, Burke will be hitching a ride in his cab. And that's really a shame, because who knows, maybe Burke has put together a great team, and Wilson is just a total ****ing inadvertent saboteur.
 
teeds said:
Guys we have nothing to trade except good pieces. No one wants our filth. So nothing will happen in a big way. Maybe they get rid of Bmen, and maybe someone takes a shot on Giguere, but apart from that, he gives up a good piece to get a weirder piece.
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I was thinking about the situation a bit earlier today.

I couldn't help but wonder whether we might be able to tempt the Isles with a monster trade offer of multiple players for Tavares.

Hear me out now. Say something like Tavares and a salary dump in exchange for Kadri, Beauch, Gunnar, Gus, Sjostrom, and Caputi.

NYI gets a guy who was taken just a few spots after JT (of course, Kadri hasn't had the hottest start to his career, but the potential is still very much present), a guy who (everyone here thinks) is a defensive stud who could eat up minutes for them, a guy who is a very promising young defender, a fallen from grace goalie with potential, a guy who can give them some defensive presence on the bottom lines, and a big young forward prospect. Essentially, they upgrade their team in all areas with six guys who can all contribute, without sacrificing their future. And let's face it, they are going to have a hell of a time convincing JT to spend a huge chunk of his best years finishing last every year in Long Island.

And we get our Toronto boy, flashy young center to become the true face of the franchise.

If I were Burke, especially given his bold statements about planning to acquire the first overall to get JT back then, I would be spending every waking minute trying to convince Snow to pull the trigger on this one.
 
Although it seems like a reasonable trade i still can't see the Isles doing that. They haven't had a star there for years, can't see them trading him for anyone but another impact player.

Kadri has the potential to be, but if he flops, that is a lost trade for the Isles hands down.

Mind you, if Tavares stands still on contract negotiations, that might be the best the Isles can get in the long run.
 
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