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18 career games and he's on the down slope already. Hell of a run though

He has was it takes between the ears to be a top line guy.
 
I love Kadri and have really high hopes for him but regardless my ideal number one guy is big. I want my first line center to be a horse. I know other teams have had some success in the past with a smallish first line center but I think with all our other small forwards we really need that big stud center.
 
Yeah, those other franchises like Pittsburg, Philly, Detroit have had "some" success. Number 1 centers don't need to be big. They just need to be good.
 
leafman101 said:
Yeah, those other franchises like Pittsburg, Philly, Detroit have had "some" success. Number 1 centers don't need to be big. They just need to be good.
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Those teams have also had some very big men in the lineup as well. Guys like Malkin, Carter and Franzen. We all tease the habs fans about their smurfs but our team has about the same kind of group size wise. 7 games in the playoffs and these boys are getting crushed.
 
The Habs went to the conference finals.

Besides, that doesn't mean Kadri can't be a number one centre. How many big, horse centers in the league are there? Ten, maybe? Sedin, Staal, Malkin, Kopitar, Thornton, Getzlaf. There are just as many great small ones. Crosby, Backstrom, Richards, Richards, Datsyuk, Stamkos, Duchene.
 
Metalleaf said:
I think Jason Arnott and Connolly will be two targets for the Leafs in the summer, if they can't get Richards.
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I hope to god they stay far away from Connolly as possible, guys just unreal in terms of the amount of injuries he recieves. I'd be fine with Arnott IF we needed to fill the #2 centre positon, but were solid there, so no need for him either. Burke needs a true top centre, neither of the guys bring what the leafs badly need.
 
Arnott on a one year deal could provide a good 2nd line center with size that we lack and we can flip him for at the deadline if we struggle again. Connolly has a history, but he's a talented passer and was on the US Olympic Team, 2+2 = A Maple Leaf, IMO.
 
Alright, since our rebuilding plans seem to be going in this thread, I'll chip in.

- Trade Francois Beauchemin to TBL for Carter Ashton and a 4th Round Pick 2011
- Trade JS Giguere to PHI for 3rd Round Pick 2011
- Trade Kris Versteeg to NSH for Jonathon Blum
- Trade Tomas Kaberle to CAR for Zach Boychuk, Austin Levi and a 2nd Round Pick 2011

Offseason
- Fire Ron Wilson
- Hire Lindy Ruff (at the moment, unsigned for next season)
- Re-sign Clarke MacArthur(3), Luke Schenn(3.8), Carl Gunnarsson(1.25), Tyler Bozak(1.7)
- Sign Simon Gagne (3.25), Ed Jovanovski(3.3)

Simon Gagne (3.25) / Tyler Bozak (1.7) / Phil Kessel (5.4)
Clarke MacArthur (3.0) / Mikhail Grabovski (2.9) / Nikolai Kulemin (2.35)
Colby Armstrong (3.0) / Nazem Kadri (1.72) / Zach Boychuk (1.195)
Mike Brown (0.6) / Christian Hanson (0.65) / Colton Orr (1.0)

Forwards: 26.765 Million

Luke Schenn (3.8) - Dion Phaneuf (6.5)
Ed Jovanovski (3.3) - Jon Blum (0.941)
Carl Gunnarsson (1.25) - Mike Komisarek (4.5)
Keith Aulie (0.733)

Defence: 21.024 Million

James Reimer (1.0)
Jonas Gustavsson (1.35)

Goaltenders: 2.35 Million

Tucker Buy-Out: 1 Million

Total: 51,139,000

Looking at this, goddamn we better either throw the bank at Brad Richards or make a deal for a serious centre.
 
I don't think MacArthur 'dislike' Ruff ... I think if anything, he was more unhappy about the way he was treated in Atlanta than in Buffalo. He deserved a top line role more in Atlanta.

But really, I don't think MacArthur is bitter about anything. He showed glimpses of top line potential but struggled with consistency, until this year. It's more like he wasn't developed well enough then to stay on the team's top 6 than he got the short end of the stick.

All taht said though, Ruff isn't going anywhere.
 
I really, really don't understand the notion of trading Mac and Versteeg for lesser players.
 
I agree. I think MacArthur has exceeded expectation, and Versteeg, after a slow start, has met expectation.

These are top 6 players that we should build around, especially considering they are only 25, 26.

Burke has GOT to find out what he's got in net in Reimer, and Rynnas and Scrivens. NO WAY he's gonna burn himself with piss-poor goaltending for THIRD YEAR in a row. He should hang himself if he allows himself to do that.

Then he's also gotta decide what he wants to do with Kaberle. I can't understand why he wouldn't re-sign Kabby to a retiring contract right now, but if he REALLY decides Kabby isn't gonna be part of his future plan (which he WILL regret) then at least trade him and get full value for his return instead of let him walk in the summer.

Those are the 2 biggest things he's gotta do between now and trade deadline.
 
zeke said:
I really, really don't understand the notion of trading Mac and Versteeg for lesser players.
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I can understand it. Mccarthur's value is at an all time high, and he's likely going to want a massive overpayment in the offseason, Burke might feel its best to trade Mccarthur for the best offer he can get when his value is at a peak. Versteeg supposedly said he wouldnt mind a trade, so Burke will probably look into trade offers.
 
Macarthur isn't going to land us a legit 1st line anything, and there are better ways of getting those things than packaging him with someone else.
 
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