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the komisarek contract sucks and all but the leafs aren't the only team overpaying for that sort of player (although they might be the only team overpaying for two of them: let's not forget about our buddy jeff finger).

in any event, kaberle is indispensable to this team. and as burke has said so many times before, if they trade him they will also have to replace him. nobody coming through the pipeline can, though. so you're looking at either another trade, or overpaying on the unrestricted market. neither alternative makes much sense when you consider that kaberle would almost certainly re-sign if a fair offer was made to him.

now, i agree that there are too many resources tied down in the blueline and that spots need to be opened for the likes of aulie, gysbyrs, holzer and possibly even blacker to get an opportunity to fight for playing time. but that issue can be addressed by dealing beauchemin, who would certainly be missed but isn't an essential piece. a top-three of phaneuf, kaberle and schenn is still very, very good. maybe komisarek can bounce back and return to being the solid #4 that he was in montreal. if not there will be ample opportunity for another youngster to seize a top four role, which might be a really positive thing for this team moving forward.

the only justification for dealing kaberle would be if they were able to get a younger and better (or just better) player than they could via the unrestricted free agent market. but from the sounds of it teams aren't willing to go above and beyond late first round picks, or second line players. neither of those options are particularly appealing.

they're better off dealing beauchemin for a prospect and a second rounder, re-signing kaberle and looking to the ufa market to bring aboard that second liner they're being offered for kaberle (or putting that money towards a first liner, somehow).
 
Oh...i think he's walking....and i wouldnt discount Brian Campbell...moreso at draft day. Burke might leap on the opportunity to be paid to take him
 
I really, really don't understand the notion of trading Mac and Versteeg for lesser players.

Agreed entirely. How much sense does it make to take a couple of 24 or 25 year-old guys who have already established themselves as reliable second-line type NHL'ers who fit in well with the structure of this team and want to be here in order to deal them for some middling first or second round picks/unestablished prospects who are only marginally younger and likely have some development time ahead of them? Young, relatively inexpensive solid players like Mac and Steeger are precisely the type of players you want to stockpile so that they enter their prime production years right as the team is nearing its window to compete at a high level. You keep those guys, not deal them.
 
they're going to trade both of them.

but there's a few O-dmen on the market this summer.

the only one who brings what kaberle brings to the table is the same age and has played just 52 games over the past two years.

no thanks. give me kaberle.
 
Pitkanen is one such player, if he makes it to free agency.

i'd definitely go after him, because i like pitkanen.

but he really isn't close to kaberle in terms of talent. he's a consolation prize, who will probably wind up earning just as much money on the open market.
 
I can understand it. Mccarthur's value is at an all time high, and he's likely going to want a massive overpayment in the offseason, Burke might feel its best to trade Mccarthur for the best offer he can get when his value is at a peak. Versteeg supposedly said he wouldnt mind a trade, so Burke will probably look into trade offers.

What the **** is the point? Seriously? There is absolutely no point in trading a young, inexpensive player (who can be signed to a reasonable extension in the off-season and who WANTS TO BE HERE) to get a couple of unimpressive, crappy draft picks from a horrendously weak draft year who will likely come nowhere close to MacArthur's production.

It's total idiocy and continues the trend of fellating draft picks over actual NHL'ers because they have the allure of "first rounder."
 
Age 20
MacArthur - AHL - 69 gp, 21 gls, 53 pts
Sharp - AHL - 53 gp, 14 gls, 33 pts/NHL 3 gp, 0 gls, 0 pts


Age 21
Mac - AHL - 51 gp, 21 gls, 63 pts/ NHL 19 gp, 3 gls, 7 pts
Sharp - AHL 35 gp, 15 gls, 29 pts/ NHL 41 gp, 5 gls, 7 pts


Age 22
Mac - AHL - 43 gp, 14 gls, 42 pts/ NHL 37 gp, 8 gls, 15 pts
Sharp - AHL/LOCKOUT - 75 gp, 23 gls, 52 pts


Age 23
Mac - NHL - 71 gp, 17 gls, 31 pts
Sharp - NHL - 77 gp, 14 gls, 31 pts


Age 24
Mac - NHL - 81 gp, 16 gls, 35 pts
Sharp - NHL - 80 GP, 25 gls, 35 pts


Age 25
Mac - NHL - 49 gp, 15 gls, 40 pts
Sharp - NHL 80 gp, 36 gls, 62 pts

Damn. Great find.
 
If he walks this board should be shut down for a day or two....there will be many many depressed folks...and at lesst 1 person tempted to gloat about knowing this all along.
 
And the Leafs wouldn't just have to replace Kaberle. They have to improve their production from the back end as is.

they can only be so proactive on that front.

with the C on his jersey, multiple 15-20 goal seasons on his resume and a $6.5mn cap hit they need to lean on phaneuf to pick up the slack. they really don't have any other choice, because they can't afford to put up the $10+mn that 2 40+-point defenders would certainly cost.
 
maybe zeke thinks its Burke's grand plan to deal him...then reisgn him in the offseason....

a little keith tkachuck manouvre...that almost never ever ever ever ever happens.
 
not necessarily, just saying that there's a few options out there on the market.

Kaberle, Markov, Pitkanen, Wisniewski, etc.
 
He had the opportunity with both Nik and Poni if he wanted but chose not to. I don't think it would be a stretch to say he wouldnt be able to pull it off if he spoke to Kabs of his intentions
 
they can only be so proactive on that front.

with the C on his jersey, multiple 15-20 goal seasons on his resume and a $6.5mn cap hit they need to lean on phaneuf to pick up the slack. they really don't have any other choice, because they can't afford to put up the $10+mn that 2 40+-point defenders would certainly cost.

I'm not saying to go out and sign Markov too. But they need a 2nd pairing guy that can move the puck without turning it over and QB the 2nd unit.
 
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