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MyNameIsJonas said:
If he walks this board should be shut down for a day or two....there will be many many depressed folks...and at lesst 1 person tempted to gloat about knowing this all along.
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Kaberle is in the drivers seat. He has a clear cut NTC. Burke has said repeatedly that he won't approach him to waive it. So unless Kaberle wants out, he isn't going anywhere.
 
leafman101 said:
I'm not saying to go out and sign Markov too. But they need a 2nd pairing guy that can move the puck without turning it over and QB the 2nd unit.
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just saying that if kaberle is allowed to walk... phaneuf has to (and will be given every opportunity to) become the team's #1 offensive d-man. they will obviously have to replace kaberle with another offensive d-man. that goes without saying. but that guy will just replace kaberle. any offensive boost from the back end will necessarily have to come from phaneuf. he makes too much money for the team to try and address the blueline's offensive shortcomings in any other way.
 
For sure. But assuming phaneuf can do that, IMO they ideally still need a McCabe/jovo type in the 3 million range on top of Phaneuf and Kaberle.
 
leafman101 said:
For sure. But assuming phaneuf can do that, IMO they ideally still need a McCabe/jovo type in the 3 million range on top of Phaneuf and Kaberle.
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i don't think so.

if phaneuf were playing at the 50 point pace they need him/he should be at then the leafs would be getting more than adequate production from the blueline.
 
But why are we striving for adequate?

If they move beauch replacing him with a guy that could produce and run the 2nd unit on the PP would greatly upgrade the blueline to much more than adequate.
 
Beauch and Komi are players that are not essential to this team. They and their salaries should be moved out, featuring a top 3 of Phaneuf, Kaberle and Schenn. Throw in some cheaper D-men (Aulie/lebda/etc) and we will have more cap space for forwards.
 
If Kabs trade list is so incredibly short, then one must assume that he'll be resigned here in the offseason as he's essentially killed his own market.
 
Blueman said:
Beauch and Komi are players that are not essential to this team. They and their salaries should be moved out, featuring a top 3 of Phaneuf, Kaberle and Schenn. Throw in some cheaper D-men (Aulie/lebda/etc) and we will have more cap space for forwards.
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Both have limited no trades, and Komi's value has never been lower.
 
leafman101 said:
But why are we striving for adequate?

If they move beauch replacing him with a guy that could produce and run the 2nd unit on the PP would greatly upgrade the blueline to much more than adequate.
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because not a lot of team have more than two 40+ point defenders.

with versteeg's ability to play the point they have that guy for the second unit, anyways (whether it's versteeg, or phaneuf).

the blueline wouldn't be merely 'adequate' offensively with kaberle + a productive phaneuf. it would be a very good offensive blueline.
 
Teams with 3 or more 30+ point pace dmen last year:

Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Philly, San Jose, Vancouver.

So basically every single team that made it past the first round except Pittsburgh (who had Letang at 27) and Montreal (who got Subban for the playoffs).
 
leafman101 said:
Teams with 3 or more 30+ point pace dmen last year:

Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Philly, San Jose, Vancouver.

So basically every single team that made it past the first round except Pittsburgh (who had Letang at 27) and Montreal (who got Subban for the playoffs).
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oh, no doubt that others will have to pick up the slack, but i think that this year is a bit of an anomaly. beauchemin typically fits that bill nicely (25-35 point guy), but even he isn't putting points on the board.

i have faith that schenn can fall into that group. same with gunnarsson (though i'm not huge on him)
 
If Kaberle walks,

There isnt anyone who can replace what he does. I'm not referring to his abiltiy to put up points, but his unique ability to quickly get the puck out of the zone and start up the attack, he's one of the best players in the game in this category. Everyone else is just average to down right brutal in this area. Phaneuf has decent mobility but is an average- to slighty above puck mover. Schenn is smart with the puck, but he doesnt have the mobility that Kaberle possess'es. Beauchimen is god awful when it comes to carrying or passing the puck, same thing with Komiserak. Lebda is fast, but he's no PMD either.
 
Yeah, I think Beauch fills the role fine most years. My idea is premised on him being moved at the deadline. If that were to happen, and they replaced him with a guy like McCabe the D corp would be pretty awesome. But yeah, if he's not moved they should be fine if Dion steps up.
 
leafman101 said:
Yeah, I think Beauch fills the role fine most years. My idea is premised on him being moved at the deadline. If that were to happen, and they replaced him with a guy like McCabe the D corp would be pretty awesome. But yeah, if he's not moved they should be fine if Dion steps up.
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Wait, so your saying Beauchimen is a good pmd or am I reading this wrong?
 
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