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If Kaberle IS traded, it IS a bit of a plus for ALL of US. We will have a TEAM to cheer for in the playoffs. THAT would be huge for ME.

And maybe, just maybe we trade Komisarek for Jason Blake. And resign Kabby.
 
teeds said:
IF, IF Komisarek could handle the puck, he would be an all teeder player. He has a bit of Van Impe in him. But this is 2011, not 1971. You HAVE to be able to skate somewhat these days, or at least be able to handle the puck. Hal Gill can do the latter to some extent.
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Actually teeds...Komisarek has zero Van Impe in him, which is a large part of the problem. Big guy, physical but not mean in the least. And Gill?? he isn't even physical, despite being roughly the size of Missouri.
 
leafman101 said:
Yeah, in retrospect the Beauch signing was great, and the Komi signing was even worse than anyone thought at the time.

As bad as Komi is, as overpaid as he is, as much as none of us thought he would ever earn that contract, who ever thought it would cost them Kaberle?
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obviously nobody could have foreseen that we'd get phaneuf and his $6.5mn price tag.

BUT

a gm really should anticipate these sorts of things. i mean, you just have to consider the impacts that these sorts of signings can have on your roster. you have to think about the distribution of salary. you have to consider whose contracts are expiring, who might be redundant or expendable, who will deserve a raise.

burke just didn't anticipate there. it's why these signings are bad, period. it isn't just that komisarek isn't worthy of a $4.5mn contract. it's that by signing him you are committing to him. for a fan it's easy to say hindsight is 50-50. but burke should have taken these scenarios into account.
 
I just can't believe that the first move Burke made was to sign the one free agent he should never have signed.
 
Not only cost them Kaberle, but they also dumped Kubina for the abysmal Exelby. Just a gross, gross trade. I'm sure Komisarek is a great guy and good for him for getting the money, but **** I wish he wasn't on my team for the next 3 years.
 
msun30 said:
obviously nobody could have foreseen that we'd get phaneuf and his $6.5mn price tag.

BUT

a gm really should anticipate these sorts of things. i mean, you just have to consider the impacts that these sorts of signings can have on your roster. you have to think about the distribution of salary. you have to consider whose contracts are expiring, who might be redundant or expendable, who will deserve a raise.

burke just didn't anticipate there. it's why these signings are bad, period. it isn't just that komisarek isn't worthy of a $4.5mn contract. it's that by signing him you are committing to him. for a fan it's easy to say hindsight is 50-50. but burke should have taken these scenarios into account.
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I think at the end of the day you just can't spend money on guys who aren't worth it. You can get away overpaying for guys like Philly did with Briere and Chicago did with Campbell. They may be overpaid, but they are good players who have an impact on your team. Unlike the Rags with Drury and Gomez or here with Komi.

On July 1 you are going to overpay for guys, but you have to make sure that those guys are worth spending money on. It might be more money than you like, and they may never be able to actually earn every dollar, but they have to be able to impact your team.

And Komi just isn't that kind of player.
 
i also don't get burke's 'allocation' remark... philadelhpia has five defensemen earning over $3mn. they have pronger and timonen combined at $11.3mn.

and they have one of the deepest groups up front in the league.

philadelhpia has about $23mn locked up in its D

the leafs would have (theoretically)

phaneuf (6.5)
kabby (6)
komisarek (4.5)
schenn (4)
gunnar (1)
aulie (.8)

which is 22.8

it's 100pct tenable, and that's giving kaberle perhaps a generous $1.75mn raise. if they go for term they might be able to get him in the neighbourhood of $5
 
The problem comes with Komi being paid like a #3 guy, but being a #6 guy. They need really cheap guy to fill in to the role Komi is paid to fill in order for that breakdown to work. And who knows how long that is tenable for. If Aulie does the job, or Gardiner, or Gunnarson, eventually they have to be paid.

In the end though those guys aren't worth losing Kabby over.
 
all posturing !

burke knows what he needs to do his first plan failed and has since admitting such gone on to correct those problems to get the second plan going !

chances are quite possible someone is going to take a snag on komi ! question is would you take a campbell contract back

and if you do acquire campbell does one allow kaberle to go alot easier

just in all fun

versteeg komi gunner for campbell brouwer and beach

kaberle for christensen and krieder
 
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I ve had this feeling for a while now, but I say we lose Kabby for nothing this summer to a rival.

Its going to be a rough go without him.
 
ForeverTML said:
I ve had this feeling for a while now, but I say we lose Kabby for nothing this summer to a rival.

Its going to be a rough go without him.
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Yup. For whatever reason Burke refuses to sign him and wont ask him to waive, so yea I do see this going down like that. This is shades of Sundin all over again.
 
I'm hoping we can re-sign Kabs or get a good player/prospect like Kreider or Schenn. That would make me happy
 
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