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Montana said:
Joe Colborne, Jordan Caron + Bostons 1st.





Still a bad deal, but at least one that wouldn't make me go Ted Bundy for a few months.....
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you dont want colborne ! kid walks with a chip and may leave the nhl at an early age as his dad wants him by his side
 
Well deal with it.. because Boston will not be trading Krejci. They're getting Kaberle to try to win the cup.. no chance they trade any significant roster players to get a rental.
 
If their 1st is being used in another deal, would grabbing one of Knight or Spooner be an acceptable replacement as the third piece?
 
You guys are gonna be very disappointed in the return methinks... I mean, I'm furious too, don't get me wrong.. but I've already accepted that we won't get much out of this deal.
 
TSNBobMcKenzie If I were a Leaf fan, I would be more focused on young players/prospects in the Bruin system (Providence of the AHL). But that's just me. :)

Sigh.
 
I'm kind of meh on Caron. Irish and I considered him a poor pick at the time since he's a pretty one-dimensional scorer and tends to have consistency issues. He's similar to Kessel in that he can be dynamic offensively but can disappear for long stretches. He's got NHL-size at 6'2 and close to 210 pounds but he takes too many nights off for my liking. The advantage to acquiring him would be his status as a natural goal-scorer (he's got a great release) and the fact that he has already got a fair amount of games under his belt at the professional level and not looked out of place for a 20 year-old rookie (9 goals and 24 points in 51 combined NHL-AHL games this season).

Boston dealing Krejci doesn't make much sense from their perspective as they are weak down the middle as it is with Savard on long-term IR with his concussion issues, and potentially his career in jeopardy. Seguin has been showing some promise as to be expected from a second overall pick with his talent and competitiveness level, but nonetheless being a 19 year-old with several consecutive healthy scratches in the past few games under his belt and the limitations that come with inexperience it will be several seasons before he will be an impact contributor. And Bergeron, their defacto first-line centre, is marginal by contender standards and fits more comfortably into a second-line role. So removing Krejci from the equation to solve help in another area (a puck-moving defenceman) doesn't improve Boston by any meaningful measure.
 
You guys are crazy.

What do you actually expect a deal for Kabs will bring?

Bostons top prospect not in the NHL is Colborne. Either Stuart or Wheeler will be a serviceable player that can play center or wing [Wheeler] or D [Stuart].

If the extra piece is either Bostons 1st or Hamill or Caron, im not sure what more we can get.

No team will trade their #1 center or any of their top line players if they are building for a playoff or cup run.

The rumored deal Burke even wanted during the offseason is a roster player [Wheeler, Stuart], a top prospect [Colborne] and pick or secondary prospect.
 
What is up with him lately. The guy is starting to slip

As for the return, there is no excuse to get hosed on this one. If Boston wants him that bad they have to give up something good to get him.

How anyone in our management can sit there and think Wheeler as the centre piece is a good return should be fired.

If we already didnt have Kully, Mac and Lupul I would be interested in getting a guy like him but there is no room for him here besides playing on the 3rd line and we already tried that experiment with Versteeg.
 
With respect to Colborne, I've made my thoughts known regarding him in the past: he has a ton of natural talent due to his play-making and on-ice vision, able to seamlessly make passes through traffic, and he's good at protecting the puck. He is also as wide as the USS Nimitz with fantastic reach and can play in multiple situations due to his size and versatility. But he's a long-term project as he's a classic "gangly" type player with a body akin to Antropov's when he first arrived to the early Quinn-era Leafs. He'll need to get a lot stronger and work on his physical play to utilize his size more effectively. He does have the potential to be a possible first-line centre down the road but that would be contingent on him showing more of a deft scoring chance around the net as he has been a bit snakebitten in terms of goal-scoring at the professional level so far.

He also fell quite substantially on The List that Irish and I submitted over the past season, largely due to a fairly lacklustre campaign in Providence. But he'll be good one down the road, it's just going to take some time and a lot of patience for a big man like him to reach his full potential.
 
Chiarelli either gives us our pick back or we get a Krejci or something that will hurt him just as much. Why should we help them out?

bob can say what he wants but I look at Boston's system and I dont' see anything worth trading an allstar defenceman to a division rival for. I just don't.
 
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