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Im with Jays on that...

As much as i think Benn would be an excellent addition, you can't honestly call him a 70pt player untill he physically gets 70pts. Not to mention i think sometimes a players ability to stay healthy is underrated a lot, i mean, think about it, if he's not playing 10-15 games consistently you can't evaluate a player and assume he's going to put up an 82 game pace point total for your team when he comes on board.
 
Cojo said:
Assuming the 70 gp guy plays more games eventually - yes, agreed.
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I would say that even if the person only plays 70 games they are more valuable. Your team would get 65pts in 70 games and from one player and in the other 12 games your team would more than likely get some point production by whoever fills the slot.
 
zeke said:
injuries or lack thereof are impossible to predict.
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That's not entirely true. Though it's definitely true that injuries are near impossible to precisely predict, there are stronger likelihoods that certain players are going to miss time to injury during a season. For example...Phil Kessel is very, very likely to play more games than Tim Connolly next season. That's not impossible to predict at all.
 
3years ago we would have predicted that Crosby or Malkin would play many more games than connolly over the next 3yrs....and we would have been way wrong.
 
Failure to predict something with certainty doesn't mean you should say it is a total crap shoot and not play the odds. Some players are absolutely more likely to stay healthy than others.
 
Benn is such an important piece in Dallas, that the likelyhood of them not matching would be less than 0.
 
Cpt. Koivu said:
Failure to predict something with certainty doesn't mean you should say it is a total crap shoot and not play the odds. Some players are absolutely more likely to stay healthy than others.
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Honestly I think it's close enough not to be a crapshoot. I mean let's continue with the example of Connolly - apparently super injury prone and never healthy - yet he's been good for ~70ish gms per year the last 3yrs, healthier than a whole whack of other "healthier" players.

kessel was supposed to be injury prone when we got him....and yet he hasn't missed a game for over 2 and a half years.

projecting injuries is a fool's game, IMO.
 
Not a Leafs rumour, but apparently the Sens offered "goalie Robin Lehner, winger Nick Foligno, prospect Mika Zibanejad and a draft pick" for Rick Nash.

If both teams are in the hunt for Bobby Ryan, would an offer like this be something Anaheim would consider? What would the Leafs offer be?
 
If Ottawa is willing to part with pieces like that, I suspect they'll land a hell of a quality player....package like that could easily land Ryan, imo.
 
Mindzeye, you are one of the most venerated posters around here, if not one of the most irritable. But I gotta tell you, outside of this chatboard group(Leaf board) for your sake, don't refer to a 27 year old number one defenceman. You will be laughed off any discussion.

In fact, when you mentioned 27 year old number one defenceman, I wondered if Gardiner was a lot older than you mentioned.

Now all the stat police on this board can take out their Iphones and Blackberries and attempt to do whatever it is they do, bean counting or whatever. But Dion Phaneuf, a number one defenceman? If that is true, then the NHL is a lot more watered down than I ever imagined.

For one third of regular season games, yes. He is. But what about those other two thirds? What number is that out there? A number seven?
 
Ottawa has no more Foligno to offer, obviously. Lehner + ZBad + pick...unless that's a 1st, probably doesn't get them Bobby Ryan...and that would depend heavily on what Anaheim thought of Lehner.
 
For one third of regular season games, yes. He is. But what about those other two thirds? What number is that out there? A number seven?
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You do understand there's not a metric in the world that agrees with you right?
 
Dion Phaneuf would have a Norris Trophy sitting on his mantle case right now if he wasn't competing against one of the top five defencemen in league history.
 
teeds said:
Mindzeye, you are one of the most venerated posters around here, if not one of the most irritable. But I gotta tell you, outside of this chatboard group(Leaf board) for your sake, don't refer to a 27 year old number one defenceman. You will be laughed off any discussion.

In fact, when you mentioned 27 year old number one defenceman, I wondered if Gardiner was a lot older than you mentioned.

Now all the stat police on this board can take out their Iphones and Blackberries and attempt to do whatever it is they do, bean counting or whatever. But Dion Phaneuf, a number one defenceman? If that is true, then the NHL is a lot more watered down than I ever imagined.

For one third of regular season games, yes. He is. But what about those other two thirds? What number is that out there? A number seven?
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