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Schenn was mishandled. If he was sent to the KHL for two years to learn how to skate like a Russian, he had more heart than any of our other dmen, save, Gardiner. But typically of MLSE and MLSE freds, they got all excited about how eager and willing he was and threw him to the wolves.

Liles though WAS playing great, but then got concussed. I cannot remember the sequence, but IF Burke signed him AFTER he got concussed Burke is even more damaged from losing his son, that I earlier thought. No way you sign a guy over thirty to a big contract like that after a concussion. Even with insurance.
 
I hate, hate, hate hearing "he just needs to improve his skating".

By 18yrs of age, that's pretty much the most difficult for any player to make any significant improvements in. There is more leeway with guys with late growth spurts who haven't fully deveoped physically yet, but that doesn't apply to guys like Schenn.
 
Should he stay or should he go...


Winger Bobby Ryan is singing a different tune these days in contrast to June's little ditty about welcoming a trade away from the Anaheim Ducks' organization. According to Eric Stephens of the Orange County Register, Ryan said the grumbly interview he gave earlier this summer was "a mistake and a slip up".

This is what the winger said then: "I gotta be honest with you. At this point, I don't care. Move me ... because it's just tough going to the rink every day knowing that if something goes wrong, you're going to be the guy moved."

This is what he's saying now (as of Wednesday): "I wanted to come back to (my home in) Newport Beach and come back to this team and this group of guys. Always. That was the No. 1 thing ... As far as I'm concerned, I'm a Duck and I'm coming to camp and will be ready to compete ... I'm here and I'm ready to go."
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Most pundits don't have Schenn pencilled into the Flyers top-4. I find that a little hard to believe given that Holmgren traded a top-six forward for him.
 
With the injuries to Pronger and Mez and the losses of Carle and Kubina to Free Agency, the Flyers may not have a choice.

After Timonen and Coburn there isn't much.
 
With that said, I do see the pairings as:

Coburn-Grossmann
Timonen - Schenn
Gustafsson - Gervais

Ugly d. Schenn may not look half bad playing with Timonen, but damn that bottom pair is ugly. Flyers will have to hope for Bourdon, Gustafsson, or Manning to break out this year as an NHL caliber D.

I think most people had Schenn o nthe bottom pair before the Meszaros injury.
 
Yikes.

The Flyers went from arguably the best defensive corps in the NHL to one of the worst on paper in the span of two years. There's almost no skating or offensive ability in that group.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Yikes.

The Flyers went from arguably the best defensive corps in the NHL to one of the worst on paper in the span of two years. There's almost no skating or offensive ability in that group.
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You have to think Holmgren won't settle with that d-core. We know he tried hard for Weber so we can sure as hell guarantee he will be going after someone, and he's the type of GM that doesn't settle on mediocre stopgap players. My bet is that Yandle or Bouwmeester will be Flyers by the end of the season. Or hell, it could be someone else I'm not even thinking of. Who knows.

We should give them Phaneuf for Couturier.
 
Schenn just needs a confidence boost (read - a reliable goalie to play in front of) IMO.
 
Bryz will be fine, especially with a couple of excellent shot-blockers lining up for him.
 
zeke said:
4-yr deal.




Liles >>> Schenn
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Depends on what category your talking about- Liles is a far better skater, stickhandler and point producer then Schenn is, however Schenn is better in his own end, he's far more physical, and he blocks a lot of shots too. So I guess "better" would depend on what your focusing in on, if you want a pure thorughbred offensive defencmen then Liles is your man, but if you want a reliable guy who is a shutdown defencmen then Schenn is the man.
 
Schenn is awful in his own end. He is a liability back there - he can't even be trusted with 2nd unit PK duty.

And he actually blocks very few shots compared to most defensive defensemen. Hell, even compared to some offensive defensemen...

Liles: 66gms, 111blk (82gms, 138blk)
Schenn: 79gms, 115blk (82gms, 119blk)
 
leafman101 said:
Schenn can't hold Liles jock strap at this point in his career.
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That's one of the most ignorant things I have ever heard and that's saying a lot! You cannot compare Schenn to Liles as players because both represent different things, I don't know how else to explain it lol. Liles is purely offensive minded, skates like the wind and can log upwards of 50 points a season (when healthy) whereas Schenn isn't an offensive player, his skating needs upgrades but he is solid in his own end and can be put out there in situations at key points in the game.
 
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