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Leaf Rumours

It's looking like some of the guys drafted in the 8-15 range (Trouba, Forsberg, Grigs, Ceci) are better prospects than some of the guys drafted much higher (Reinhart, Dumba, Lindholm etc). Not a bad draft to trade down in, if Rielly wasn't there.
 
Little too early to tell, I'd say.

But both the Reinhart and Lindholm picks were considered a reach, and all of Grigs and Forsberg were supposed to be top 10 picks.
 
BG said:
Little too early to tell, I'd say.

But both the Reinhart and Lindholm picks were considered a reach, and all of Grigs and Forsberg were supposed to be top 10 picks.
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I'm not sure it's too early.

I think a few teams out smarted themselves when they passed over a guy like Grigs for lesser prospects.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
I'm not sure it's too early.

I think a few teams out smarted themselves when they passed over a guy like Grigs for lesser prospects.
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The context of the quote was in response to the mention that it would have been a good draft to trade down to the 8-15 range. Which is of course only true in hindsight.
 
I don't think it's hindsight though. The draft was a good 12-15 deep imo. After the top few picks, there wasn't much difference in quality between a guy taken 7th and 15th.
 
Lebrun:

The Los Angeles Kings are winless in three games to open the season (0-2-1) and while I would suggest the performance of the top six forwards is the biggest reason for the slow start, you can’t discount the injuries on the blue line.

You just don’t replace Willie Mitchell and Matt Greene in the lineup that easily, not in the dressing room either, for that matter.

Mitchell is on the mend and hopefully should be back fairly soon, although it’s not entirely clear when. And even when he does return, you have to assume he’ll need time before he's his normal self.

And Greene is out long term, leaving the Kings scouring the trade market looking for blue-line help. I believe Kings GM Dean Lombardi might be willing to do what he wasn’t a month ago: move young netminder Jonathan Bernier if it means getting a top-four blueliner in return.

Easier said than done. Every team in the league seems to be looking for ways to add defense, not shed some. And the Kings are really high on Bernier; they view him as a franchise goalie in the making, so they’re not moving him unless they get what they want.

All of which makes things intriguing with word that Toronto came calling over the past month kicking the tires on Bernier. Could Toronto offer up the defenseman the Kings need? Hard to say. But the Leafs are one of the few teams in the league with real depth on defense, nine NHL blueliners at the ready right now.

Ben Scrivens was shelled by the New York Islanders on Thursday night, fueling the predictable demands from Leaf fans for their team to finally solve their goalie issues. Of course there’s the whole Roberto Luongo soap opera to consider as well. Yes, the Leafs remain interested in Luongo.

But know this: New Leafs GM Dave Nonis is adamant he’s not going to be pressured into any trade just because of some bad results. Win or lose from day to day, he has the long-term view in mind and says he will stick to it. He’ll make a goalie trade when he feels the time is right.

So a dreadful 7-4 loss at home to the Islanders, the Leafs blowing a 3-1 lead Thursday night, will not expedite a trade.

"No, nothing has changed; if there’s a deal out there that makes us better that doesn’t severely affect us going forward, then we would look to do it," Nonis told ESPN.com on Friday. "And if there’s not, then it’s important the players we have in our room compete like they have prior to last night. There is no change in the direction we’re going."

Yes I believe the Leafs remain interested in Luongo, but as long as the Canucks want Nazem Kadri as part of any deal, it’s not going to happen.

So the waiting game, or chicken game, continues between Vancouver and Toronto.

The Canucks will hope the Leafs’ goaltending woes continue and make Nonis reconsider his stance on Kadri. The Leafs will hope the Luongo situation in Vancouver becomes unbearable for the Canucks and they’re finally forced to make a move for a lesser price.

Ticktock ...
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not sure how much value bernier has on the trade market as a smallish, unproven and untested goalie.

to up his trade value they'd basically have to be hoping that quick gets injured and bernier gets a stretch of starts (which they obviously aren't hoping for).

but that said, franson has been pretty awful as a maple leaf, and a bit of a problem child to boot so i doubt LA makes that swap, even though franson has a skillset they could use.
 
Why the kings should expect a proven top 4 defenseman for their unproven 24yr old backup is beyond me.
 
Its not so much about Bernier's trade value as it is that Franson stinks. Two longtime NHL coaches have played Komi over him. Can't see too many teams excited about picking him up.
 
I did like Franson in Nashville, but he hasn't really done a whole lot of good since he came to Toronto.

If we can get something valuable in return for him, we might as well, as it seems he will never materialize into much here.
 
Most of you saw him as a top 4 guy after last season, now after 1 bad game he stinks? The guy just needs some playing time.

mbow, you said it earlier in another thread. Don't expect him to be a guy who'll be throwing his body around..Carlyle just doesn't like the fact he's playing soft and so that's why he's playing others(even Komi) ahead of him. Last season, as he got more games he got better(both offensively and defensively) so it's normal not to look good after not having played for so long. I really think he can be kinda like Gunnar, he has similar puck handling ability(not amazing but pretty solid) and played much better defensively when he got more games in.
 
my problem with him is that he's a bad decision maker who is really lazy in his own end.

he has all the tool to be really good.

but i don't think he's going to get there.
 
mbow30 said:
my problem with him is that he's a bad decision maker who is really lazy in his own end.

he has all the tool to be really good.

but i don't think he's going to get there.
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Yeah i complained about this all of last season...He looks quick sometimes and other times you can't help but wonder why he isn't moving more out there...so yea i do believe he's lazy. We'll see what happens but i'd like to see him get a shot to prove that he can do it. Still a relatively young guy too. He has to get rid of that cockiness..He thinks he's better than others(you can tell by his play at times and the way he does interviews).
 
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