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Its not one bad game, its over a year of bad games.

IMO he is a much less talented Kubina. Great skill package, no brains.
 
I honestly think him being lazy is the bigger issue than him being dumb..Quite often last season he would make some sick moves in front of our own net(Gardiner type confidence) and just come out with speed..you'd think nobody can even take the puck away from him..Other times he's just not moving his feet at all. We've seen last game, when you're stationary for so long, any dman can look bad. He's definitely not as bad as Komi in terms of decision making...As for Kubina..He's pretty comparable actually.
 
Franson is still a young player, especially by blueline standards. He's also had nary a chance to establish himself in Toronto. I suspect that he'd end up being a guy that flourishes as soon as he's shipped out of town.

Maybe that thinking coincides with another GM's and gives him some trade value. The guy I'd rather see moved in this scenario is Liles. Though his trade value might not be the best, his veteran status and ability to move the puck might appeal to LA.
 
BeLeafer said:
Franson is still a young player, especially by blueline standards. He's also had nary a chance to establish himself in Toronto. I suspect that he'd end up being a guy that flourishes as soon as he's shipped out of town.

Maybe that thinking coincides with another GM's and gives him some trade value. The guy I'd rather see moved in this scenario is Liles. Though his trade value might not be the best, his veteran status and ability to move the puck might appeal to LA.
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Thats the right idea. Franson is a 6'5 25 year old defenceman. Although unproven, he holds an interesting skillset. With a little bit of confidence and icetime we might reap the benefits.

Liles for Bernier + filler would be a good trade to make. Take advantage of our veteran depth on defence to take a chance on a potential franchise goalie. Though i still hold reservations on whether or not Bernier will ever amount to anything.
 
Sweet, only problem now is actually moving him.

I have a sinking feeling that the Leafs brass still think he has some value.

Plus, he has that limited nmc that could cause problems.
 
That would be a decent enough move. dont like giving up Frattin though. he might be a decent enough replacement for a MacArthur or Kulemin eventually.
 
I'd do that pretty quickly. Just getting rid of Komi is worth it.

If somebody told you we could trade Frattin for Bernier, AND they'd take Komisarek... guy has negative value.
 
sir pyscho sexy said:
I'd do that pretty quickly. Just getting rid of Komi is worth it.

If somebody told you we could trade Frattin for Bernier, AND they'd take Komisarek... guy has negative value.
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You realize that the Leafs can get rid of Komisarek without giving up Frattin with a buy out, right? No interest in Bernier myself. He's done nothing more than Reimer.
 
goleafsgo89 said:
You realize that the Leafs can get rid of Komisarek without giving up Frattin with a buy out, right? No interest in Bernier myself. He's done nothing more than Reimer.
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Yah but I don't mind giving up Frattin for the chance that Bernier is a top goalie. I'm not sold on Bernier, but if the cost is that low (3rd liner + deadweight) then its tough not to.
 
I wouldn't give up Frattin for Bernier. I don't get the Bernier hype at all. The only thing he's got going for him to suggest that he might be an actual blue chip prospect is the fact that he was a first round pick seven years ago, and had a really good season in the AHL three years ago. As a backup in the NHL, he's put up mediocre numbers on a very good team, and he's also a Toskala-sized midget.

As for the Komisarek aspect of that proposed deal, since we have the ability to just buy him out with no cap consequences 43 games from now, a team being willing to pick him up no longer has the value it once did.
 
I think Bernier projects out to be a solid NHL backup who can carry the mail from time to time. Just what Reimer needs.
 
goleafsgo89 said:
You realize that the Leafs can get rid of Komisarek without giving up Frattin with a buy out, right? No interest in Bernier myself. He's done nothing more than Reimer.
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Why give up an asset for komi? The leafs have one thing going for them .... money. Why buy out komi and waste one of your buyouts? I think you will see some teams with huge contracts they would like to get rid of offering up draft choices in exchange. I dont think first and seconds and thirds would be out of the question.If you can dump komi fo a DC than do it.
 
Wouldnt surprise me to see kessel gone by next summer. Scary to think what this guy could have done with a decent centerman.
 
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