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Montana said:
Source.....always provide a source. Otherwise this stuff's about as useful as a teeds post.
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I have a friend who works as a highlights editor at TSN, he sometimes overhears things....and passes some stuff long my way....none of this means that anything is going to happen obviously...i would never use words like guarentee...like teeds.
 
Bernier is as unproven as they come, which is not to say I don't want him, but it'd be stupid to pay anything significant for him. He is a smallish size goalie (5'11) who has ~ .910 SV% in a backup role over 2 seasons.

Frattin for Bernier, I'd do it, but not more than than.

I can't recall the last 5'11 goalie who developed into an elite NHL goalie. It's pretty rare in today's NHL.
 
ELITE goalie :)

Tim Thomas, I'll give you that one.

The others are NOT what I'd call elite goaltenders ... not over the entire course of their career.
 
Well what is elite? Halak and Backstrom are pretty damn good (they are 6th and 7th in save percentage since the last lockout -- which means 3 of the top 7 goalies over the last CBA were under 6'), and aside from a 3-4 year stretch in the middle of his career Theodore has been too.

If elite is just the best of the best then you can argue that Thomas has been the only elite goalie in the NHL over the last few years.

IMO its pretty evident that being 5'11 isn't a roadblock to being a high end goalie. Good goalies are good goalies.
 
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Halak average last 3 years: 49 GP, .920

We can talk semantics all day about whether he is a "fulltime" starter or not. But its meaningless because either way he's been damn good. And his size certainly hasn't prevented him from being so.

There is no rule that goalies under 6' can't be good goalies in the NHL, and if that was a rule it'd just be wrong.
 
I wouldn't trade Frattin. And I wouldn't trade anything of value for Bernier. He's just as likely to be a bust than a starter, even more likely probably.

Sure, Komi straight up, of course, but LA would be beyond stupid to even consider that proposal.
 
zeke said:
It's not semantics. the guy's never been a fulltime starter. calling him elite is wrong.
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I didn't call him elite. I said he is "pretty damn good" and 7th in the NHL in save percentage since the last lockout. Both of which are true.
 
So clearly the Leafs best option is to continue to develop goalies until they find the elite one.
 
the only season he's played as a near fulltime starter he played 57gms.......and posted a .910sv%.
 
The only one pretending anything is you pretending he's even established himself as a legit starting NHL goalie.
 
He has been a legit starter each of the last 2 years. He played 57 games two years ago, and played 46 games last year only because his backup was even better than he was, not due to any fault of Halak. This is a silly argument.
 
leafman101 said:
Well what is elite? Halak and Backstrom are pretty damn good (they are 6th and 7th in save percentage since the last lockout -- which means 3 of the top 7 goalies over the last CBA were under 6'), and aside from a 3-4 year stretch in the middle of his career Theodore has been too.

If elite is just the best of the best then you can argue that Thomas has been the only elite goalie in the NHL over the last few years.

IMO its pretty evident that being 5'11 isn't a roadblock to being a high end goalie. Good goalies are good goalies.
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Him and Lundqvist anyway... and he's not exactly big at 6'1".
 
leafman101 said:
He has been a legit starter each of the last 2 years. He played 57 games two years ago, and played 46 games last year only because his backup was even better than he was, not due to any fault of Halak. This is a silly argument.
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he was a below average starter 2 yrs ago, and a good platoon guy last year.

nobody in the hockey world looks at Halak as an above average starting goalie.
 
zeke said:
he was a below average starter 2 yrs ago, and a good platoon guy last year.

nobody in the hockey world looks at Halak as an above average starting goalie.
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Exactly.

Halak, at most, is a pretty good 1A goalie if you have a 1A-1B setup.

To call him 'elite' would be a HUGE stretch
 
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