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worm said:
I'm with player...not sure he out scores Kessel.


But I cannot ignore salary.

$9.5m should be giving you 60 goals.

Both players at 40 goals...Ill take Kessel.

What can Kessel be signed for?

7m? I still dont like paying 2.5m more for similiar production with a potential for more.
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The only reason to pay more is star power which Toronto does not need to sell out. Teams like Washington do. They need that name to put butts in the seats.
 
I wonder if he'daccept a deal to the Islanders.....

I can see Wang offering anything not named Tavares in a deal to get him....especially with the new arena in Brooklyn
 
Ovie is one of the most talented players of this generation. I don't care about his struggles these last two years. IMO he's been completely mishandled by Washington trying to turn him into something he isn't.

I'd take the risk on him any day of the week. He could be the best player to ever play for this organization (and most other ones too).

If you get an opportunity to take advantage of these struggles to land a guy that otherwise you'd never in a million years have a chance to get, you take it and run to the bank.
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Ovy's name and cache alone make this untrue, this isnt a Luongo situation....someone will pay through the nose.
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Guys like Nash, Thornton etc had "name" as well, doesn't mean they will get traded for great packages.

The fact he's tailed off signficantly offensively and he's making a lot of money will make it hard for them to get a homerun package imo.
 
leafman101 said:
Ovie is one of the most talented players of this generation. I don't care about his struggles these last two years. IMO he's been completely mishandled by Washington trying to turn him into something he isn't.

I'd take the risk on him any day of the week. He could be the best player to ever play for this organization (and most other ones too).
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I don't know if it is so much mismanagement as OV being out of shape.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Guys like Nash, Thornton etc had "name" as well, doesn't mean they will get traded for great packages.

The fact he's tailed off signficantly offensively and he's making a lot of money will make it hard for them to get a homerun package imo.
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While I agree with your point, I view Nash and Thornton a notch below OV. He really is that generational talent.
 
Its mismanagement. They took the most explosive offensive player in the game and tried to get him to play gritty, dirty defensive hockey. I don't care what style you want your team to play. You give that guy the green light to do whatever the **** he wants.

The problem to me is pretty clear. The guy isn't having fun playing anymore. And that is what used to stick out most about him. His enthusiasm. They took it right out of his game to try and settle him down into a complete player and it didn't work at all.
 
I was reading that he's been overweight the past two years and he is not training as hard as he used to.
 
Guy's like OV never come on the trade market, really. If he were to, i'd be dissapointed if my team had the room/ability to get him and did not.

It's hard to figure cost though since there really isnt a precident for this, or have any idea what Washington would want.
 
Ovie’s a fat, lazy piece of shit right now, aka the perfect time to look to trade for him. I don’t know what it’d take, but I don’t see a point in trading Kessel the other way.
 
Habsy said:
I was reading that he's been overweight the past two years and he is not training as hard as he used to.
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There could be something to this...same with the notion that being suspended sort of stalled his agressive drive, which made him so so good.

He's almost becoming a permiter player which is gross.

That episode in game 1 vs Toronto at the end of the 3rd where he cirlced the net twice was sad.

That said...i take a chance and get him...

NYI....might be the play.
 
I watched the Hawks/Sharks game last night. I've seen 6 Hawks games this year as my good buddy is a huge Hawks fan. I wouldn't mess with that chemistry for OV.

Hossa is a beast by the way. Coming back from the off wing to backcheck and stop a potential odd man rush was very impressive. Marleau looked like shit last night, was not moving his legs.
 
Lemieux never took great care of himself. Ovie was always kind of fat for an elite athlete. These guys are soo good that it doesn't really matter. A fat Ovie is still better than most of the players in the league.

He isn't skating right now. He looks like he doesn't give a shit.
 
leafman101 said:
Lemieux never took great care of himself. Ovie was always kind of fat for an elite athlete. These guys are soo good that it doesn't really matter. A fat Ovie is still better than most of the players in the league.

He isn't skating right now. He looks like he doesn't give a shit.
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sure but fat ovie isnt worth 9.5m

and mario played in a different time
 
Habsy said:
I watched the Hawks/Sharks game last night. I've seen 6 Hawks games this year as my good buddy is a huge Hawks fan. I wouldn't mess with that chemistry for OV.

Hossa is a beast by the way. Coming back from the off wing to backcheck and stop a potential odd man rush was very impressive. Marleau looked like shit last night, was not moving his legs.
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Yeah i wouldnt go for him if i were Chicago, because we dont have the room and we have a very good core that i wouldnt break up....but a team lacking stars....i absolutely make the play.

And Hawks/Sharks was a fun game.
 
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