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hockeylover
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I haven't really seen this - LeafGM makes bets on Karlsson, Bleeds saying how terrific he is. We certainly wouldn't recommend you trade him for a lesser, older player because he's a little more gritty.
corksens
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It's a statement I agree with too. For Karlsson to continue being labelled as is he has to do it consistently.
For you guys to apply a trade value on Kessel at a PPG player, he kind has to keep that up as well. No?
hockeylover
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Uh, the guy is saying that Karlsson has to remain at a 70 point defenseman to remain in a conversation with Crosby as the best player in the league not to keep him from getting traded for a lesser talent who's more gritty.
I have a really hard time believing that you're this stupid.
JaysCyYoung
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You know exactly what the difference is cork.
Annointing a player as the best in the league, or just a step below that title, obviously would require continued elite play. That's hardly an indictment on Karlsson as I think he's far and away the best defender in the league.
hockeylover
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I'm so, so sick of people touting intangibles all the time. Talent is the great intangible.
Give me a player talented enough to put up a PPG season and I'll hope he can do it again.
**** the guy who's never done it at age 28.
Trading Kessel for Brown definitely doesn't make us any better and quite frankly, probably makes us worse.
Give me a player talented enough to put up a PPG season and I'll hope he can do it again.
**** the guy who's never done it at age 28.
Trading Kessel for Brown definitely doesn't make us any better and quite frankly, probably makes us worse.
leafman101
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What plethora of other qualities? He hits.
MyNameIsJonas
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Wasn't Brown accused of being hard to get along with before he won a cup and became the All American Leader?
leafman101
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Yeah, they almost traded him at the deadline.
MyNameIsJonas
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I cant think of a Kessell deal that would make sense both for Toronto and the other team involved...
leafman101
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Deals like that rarely do. Thats why these guys never get traded.
hockeylover
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That's because we need another player with Kessel's talent level not to simply swap him for another one. Or a lesser player with more truculence.
MyNameIsJonas
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Diddn't you just describe Brown?
Volcanologist
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It's frustrating the number of people that actually think this makes sense to do.
leafman101
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I'd go hard after Getzlaf and make them an offer they can't refuse. This might be your only chance to get a guy like that. Maybe it costs you a Wendel Clark, but so be it.
leafman101
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The only guys I'd be hesitant to give up are Kessel and Rielly. Other than that who on this team isn't worth losing to get Ryan Getzlaf. What on this team wouldn't you trade for a 27 year old Mats Sundin? Is there anything? I wouldn't give up quantity, but I'd give up quality. Nothing stupid like Phaneuf, Kadri, Grabo and Gardiner or whatever. But I'd give up any of those guys in a deal.
A deal based around Phaneuf could maybe. Throw in some pieces on either side to make it work. You would have to be able to get an extension first though. It would hurt, like losing Clark hurt, but in the end it'd probably be worth it.
A deal based around Phaneuf could maybe. Throw in some pieces on either side to make it work. You would have to be able to get an extension first though. It would hurt, like losing Clark hurt, but in the end it'd probably be worth it.