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Montana said:
Hypothetical offer they can't refuse, might look like what?
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LeafOfFaith said:
Trading Kessel for an equivalent player who plays center would be a slam dunk win for us.
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I don't really buy this. I get that the center position is an important one in hockey but this wouldn't be a significant upgrade at all, we'd still need another winger with Phil's talent.
 
I dunno...I love Kessel, and can't envision too many scenarios where I'd deal him....


...but just talking hypothetical, I think we'd be a better team with a Lupul-Kopitar-JVR 1st line, than we would be with a Lupul-Bozak-Kessel first line....for instance.
 
...but I'm with 101, if we can overpay within reason and acquire Getzlaf, while keeping Kessel that'd be the move to make.
 
Have there not been enough pages on this forum dedicated to the fact that we need a centre to play with Phil?

What purpose,overall, would it serve to trade Phil for the centre he needs? :)
 
It's hilariously sad that as soon as Sundin signed elsewhere and promptly retired that the Leafs acquired Kessel. That's exactly the poor run of luck that would afflict this organization.
 
Montana said:
I dunno...I love Kessel, and can't envision too many scenarios where I'd deal him....


...but just talking hypothetical, I think we'd be a better team with a Lupul-Kopitar-JVR 1st line, than we would be with a Lupul-Bozak-Kessel first line....for instance.
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How much better though?

To be a contender, we'd still need another elite talent up front, IMO.
 
corksens said:
You guys are adorable.

Just about every comment made about Karlsson is prefaced by stating "if he keeps it up".

I attribute the same logic to Kessel and everyone loses their mind.
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It's alot harder to be a PPG defender, than a PPG forward...Over the previous 10 seasons, there have been 200+ (roughly 215, depending on the criteria you use) ~PPG or PPG+ performances. 3 of those have been by a defender. Lidstrom, Green, and Karlsson.

You seriously think you're arguing equivalents here? The odds of Kessel putting up additional PPG seasons is significantly higher than Karlsson, just because he's a forward. You saw a historic offensive season by Karlsson last year....and you get offended by some people questioning it. A bit over sensitive, no?
 
Montana said:
I dunno...I love Kessel, and can't envision too many scenarios where I'd deal him....


...but just talking hypothetical, I think we'd be a better team with a Lupul-Kopitar-JVR 1st line, than we would be with a Lupul-Bozak-Kessel first line....for instance.
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Yeah...but slot any reasonable 1st line centre in with Kessel, and that line is pretty ****ing good. If Getzlaf doesn't make free agency, I'd sign Ribeiro personally...not ideal, but a huge upgrade on Bozak.
 
I dont think Leonsis, assuming he wants to move Ovechkin is going to let McPhee do it.

That screams offseason move, same with Backstrom and Green if made.


McPhee at best will be allowed to move UFA's like Ribiero and pieces like Brouwer, Chimera, and Beagle
 
MindzEye said:
Yeah...but slot any reasonable 1st line centre in with Kessel, and that line is pretty ****ing good. If Getzlaf doesn't make free agency, I'd sign Ribeiro personally...not ideal, but a huge upgrade on Bozak.
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I wouldnt be surprised to see Stastny talks revisited as well.
 
corksens said:
The same principle applies.

If Kessel is going to be considered an elite PPG winger he kind of has to keep doing it.

If he doesn't, and sits closer to the 35/65 player then a trade for a 25/55 with a plethora of other qualities isn't absurd.
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My problem with this, is that Kessel was better than that as a 21 yr old when he had a legitimate centreman....and then again when he was 24...when we finally got him someone worth playing with. You guys talk about Letang having a stacked team to play with....what did Kessel have to play with the 2 years he was a ~65 point winger? Bozak & Versteeg?
 
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