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zeke said:
Why do people think we should trade our 22year old 30+pt great skating 17th overall pick defenseman on a cheap contract for their 22year old 50+ point poor skating 33rd overall pick centre looking for a massive contract....and that we would have to ADD to the deal to make it happen?
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Because the defenseman is a Leaf. If the opposite were occuring, we would be told how ridiculous it was of us to believe that we could get Jake Gardiner for Ryan O'Reilly and his insane contract demands.
 
BeLeafer said:
Weird, I was just checking this guy out for my FI team. His agent is on bad drugs and may be sharing them with O'Reilly. He's demanding 5 years @ $5.5M ... nuts. Kid has one moderately good season under is belt and hasn't even cracked 20 goals.

Can't say I'd want to have anything to do with him. Looks like a decent two way 2nd line centre. Nothing to get excited about, to be sure. I read some reporter claiming he's one of the top ten centres in the NHL. Laughable.
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Matt Stajan 2.0.
 
zeke said:
habs fans have a love affair with Eller for some reason. I see him as a Tlusty type player myself.
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only centre above 6 feet on the team


i see him as a third line centre.... but I do that trade no problem....but if we were not going to pay PK we wont pay O'Rielly
 
corksens said:
Doesn't O'Rielly want a big contract? How would Montreal fit into that scheme?

They just forced their 22 year old stud defenseman to hold out and then accept a weak 2-year contract. Something tells me they won't trade pieces then throw a load of cash at a different young player.
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Yep.
 
I can't see this guy suddenly turning into a #1C after average numbers his whole career.

Those dont come by often and this doesnt look to be the case
 
He scored 18 goals and 55 points in the NHL at 20. And is a very good defensive player.

It depends what you mean by number 1 center. Is he the next Joe Thornton? No. The next Patrice Bergeron? Looks like it.
 
That's honestly an awful comparison though. O'Reilly was literally only drafted on his hockey sense and passing ability. He can't skate worth a lick and is slow.

Bergeron was drafted on his skating ability and speed as much as anything. He's also a considerably better goal-scorer.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Yeah, but hardly any goal totals, which in junior normally is a future predictor of limited offensive upside.
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I guess I just think "average numbers his whole career" is a little misleading to say in this case since his "whole career" is just his 16, 17 year old OHL seasons and then he was thrown into the NHL right away. 55 points as a 21 year old isn't too shabby. The Flyers gave JVR a 4.25m, 6 year deal on less.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
That's honestly an awful comparison though. O'Reilly was literally only drafted on his hockey sense and passing ability. He can't skate worth a lick and is slow.

Bergeron was drafted on his skating ability and speed as much as anything. He's also a considerably better goal-scorer.
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I wasn't comparing their style. I was comparing their impact on the game. And its bang on. O'Rielly has top notch, two way center written all over him. Hell he already is that.
 
I would expect to see bigger numbers in junior from a guy who has so much hype thats all.

Not saying he wont be good but people are fapping at this guy like he is going to come in a be a difference maker from one season of production.

I want to see more before I commit giving up assets and money to this guy. Especially with the cap going down
 
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