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Cory_BSF said:
The problem is JVR and Kessel shouldn't be playing together.. they are both soft on the boards.. They struggle heavily defensively and its not like Bozak can hold the fort in his own end. When Kessel is your best back checker shift after shift. He isn't going to be as affective offensively. The top line is a mess and they need to fix it.
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It hurts that two of our best guys along the boards are out -- Lupul and Frattin. Once they are back, there's much better balance.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
JVR - Kadri - Frattin
MacArthur - Grabovski - Kulemin
Komarov - McClement - Orr
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
yet hes found a way
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leafman101 said:
Not sure that is a fair assessment. If Kessel was scoring the same amount of goals he always has (with Lupul or with Crabb) he would be matching what he did last year. He is on pace for 45 assists. Its his goals that are down. But we know Phil Kessel can score goals no matter who he plays with. That is the one thing he has proven.
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It's not really an assessment, I was stating facts and wondering if this correlation is significant. I'm not sure, but you can slice it anyway you like, it doesn't change the fact that Kessel is producing at the level he was pre-Lupul and the Lupul year is the only one where he's come in at a ppg clip.

As I think about it some more, the probable reason for this seems fairly straightforward: Kessel isn't nearly as effective without a big body that can work the boards and deal with the heavy traffic areas. It makes good sense given the correlation between his production and types of linemates.
 
BeLeafer said:
It's not really an assessment, I was stating facts and wondering if this correlation is significant. I'm not sure, but you can slice it anyway you like, it doesn't change the fact that Kessel is producing at the level he was pre-Lupul and the Lupul year is the only one where he's come in at a ppg clip.

As I think about it some more, the probable reason for this seems fairly straightforward: Kessel isn't nearly as effective without a big body that can work the boards and deal with the heavy traffic areas. It makes good sense given the correlation between his production and types of linemates.
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Yep. Lupul has pretty decent vision too(not Kessel good but still).
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
It hurts that two of our best guys along the boards are out -- Lupul and Frattin. Once they are back, there's much better balance.

Lupul - Bozak - Kessel
JVR - Kadri - Frattin
MacArthur - Grabovski - Kulemin
Komarov - McClement - Orr
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I literally am starting to hate Bozak on that top line... far too many defensive screw ups in a position that his wingers arent the type to bail him out.

I really would love for Nonis to call up Colorado who now have to up their payroll and next year for Oreilly and offer the salaries of Bozak and Liles for Statsny. If you were going to buy out two players next year it looks like it would have been Liles and Komi by their sitting in the press box. So why not give Statsny a chance and if it fails miserably (which I don't think it would) buy Stats out with Komi like you would have anyway. Bozak is a UFA anyway.

Lupul Statsny Kessel
JVR Kadri Frattin
Mac Grabs Kule
Komorov Mclement Orr/Brown
 
We already have midgets on our team, not interested in Stastny too. Getlzaf types only...I think our management realizes this so you won't see anyone replacing Bozak(short term anyways) until we can get a big body.
 
Paul Stastny: 6'0, 205lbs.

He's not "big", but "midget" might be the wrong word to describe him. That being said, while I was interested in this guy in the past in the hope that he might rebound, he's now in the middle of his third straight season scoring at a 50-60 point pace. Actually, right now he's even only two points ahead (and one goal behind) of John "Mitchy" Mitchell in scoring on the Avalanche. So, it's looking like a good bet that the PPG seasons he had at the beginning of his career may permanently be in the past. Considering that, $6.6M is a pretty insane cap hit for him.
 
LeafGm said:
Paul Stastny: 6'0, 205lbs.

He's not "big", but "midget" might be the wrong word to describe him. That being said, while I was interested in this guy in the past in the hope that he might rebound, he's now in the middle of his third straight season scoring at a 50-60 point pace. Actually, right now he's even only two points ahead (and one goal behind) of John "Mitchy" Mitchell in scoring on the Avalanche. So, it's looking like a good bet that the PPG seasons he had at the beginning of his career may permanently be in the past. Considering that, $6.6M is a pretty insane cap hit for him.
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Oh i know he's not that small it's just that he plays no bigger than Bozak when it comes to board play..and yeah then there's the whole 6.6 mil.
 
I wouldn't be opposed to taking a shot on him if you miss out on guys liek Getzlaf an Ribiero. He only has one more year left on his deal, and used to be a hell of a player. Maybe a change of scenery does good for him. If not its only a one year experiment.
 
I'd do a Bozak-Stansy flip, as there's only a year left on that deal and ... well, anything to get rid of Bozak, even a (statiscally) sideways deal.

He also has some promise to rebound with an elite winger, as he as at the least shown that he can produce at a much higher level that Bozak ever has. Might be a good change of scenery move. If it's not, you're stuck with the cap hit for just a season. A risk that may be worth taking.
 
BeLeafer said:
I'd do a Bozak-Stansy flip, as there's only a year left on that deal and ... well, anything to get rid of Bozak, even a (statiscally) sideways deal.

He also has some promise to rebound with an elite winger, as he as at the least shown that he can produce at a much higher level that Bozak ever has. Might be a good change of scenery move. If it's not, you're stuck with the cap hit for just a season. A risk that may be worth taking.
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hahah..Love your posts Beleafer but on this one i think you're wrong. You and I both agreed that we have a 3rd line guy playing 1st line minutes. Now you hate him so much that you want him gone. lol..Hilarious imo. I would like to prove my point too. I'd like him to try being with players like Kuly, Mac, Frattin and see how he fares. I agree with Randy on him being a good defensive player(you pick and choose when he screws up to call him on it yet it's the 2 weak wingers that are ****ing it up most times).
 
That's all I am saying... To me this deal would be similar to the Cole/Ryder deal. Yes we take 6.6 mill... but its for 1 year as opposed to the 4 or whatever we owe to Liles.

Stats is a better defensive presence than the statistics are showing for this year... and a change of scenery may do him good. If not, you still have a player that is the same as what we have and we made room in the press box for a defenseman that can sit a bit for Gardiner to come in.
 
PKForce81 said:
We already have midgets on our team, not interested in Stastny too. Getlzaf types only...I think our management realizes this so you won't see anyone replacing Bozak(short term anyways) until we can get a big body.
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Stastny isn't a midget.

He's also at least capable of producing top line numbers, unlike Ballsak.
 
Like I've said many times PK, if Carlyle played him as a third liner, it would only be a minor annoyance to have him in the lineup. But Carlyle, for reason I cannot for the life of me deduce, is showing absolutely no sign that he's going to play him in a reasonably appropriate role.

Thus, Stasny, because he doesn't have this fetish history with Carlyle (thus may well be bumped down the lineup if he doesn't perform) and also has an established history of producing at a first line level with elite talent, is a better choice. At the very least, it's merely a higher cap hit for a year.
 
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Mike Komisarek gave #Leafs a list of 12 teams he'd accept a trade to but I'm told he'd pretty much accept a trade anywhere. Wants to play
 
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