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Marleau might be a good fit. If it doesn't cost the Leafs much in terms of player personnel, I say go for it. Which it shouldn't, considering he's making $6.9 million next year, and not too many teams can accommodate that. His contract expiring allows the team to re-work him into the future or just let him go too.

Kessel could use a more multi-dimensional player on his line, and I think Marleau could play at a 70 point pace with Kessel. He's a big upgrade from Bozak.
 
Weiss is just a quality center. Which is all we need at this point. Thanks to Kadri we don't need to be looking at guys like Getzlaf, Thornton and Staal who will never be traded anyway anymore.

Just need to replace Bozak with a quality center, and you have the depth down the middle to compete.

We don't even need a defensive shut down guy thanks to Kadri's play there as well. Just a guy who isn't a liability in his own end like Bozak is.
 
If all you think we need is a quality centre (I don't disagree with you per se) then Statsny is in that same category as Weiss.. also making him easier to get as Colorado may be looking to move that salary for cheaper.

But if you had the choice Stats or Marleau for roughly the same trade cost who would you take.
 
Hoss said:
If all you think we need is a quality centre (I don't disagree with you per se) then Statsny is in that same category as Weiss.. also making him easier to get as Colorado may be looking to move that salary for cheaper.

But if you had the choice Stats or Marleau for roughly the same trade cost who would you take.
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Technically Weiss would be easier to get. He's injured right now and will probably be available to the highest bidder in July.

As far as talent goes I think Marleau > Stastny > Weiss but then Marleau's 33.
 
At this point Stastny. Stastny may not be the 70 point guy anymore but neither is Marleau. Offensively they have been pretty comparable over the last two years.

Marleau: 112 gp, 45 gls, 87 pts (82 gp, 32 gls, 63 pts)
Stastny: 109 gp, 29 gls, 72 pts (82 gp, 22 gls, 54 pts)

But Stastny is 6 years younger and actually plays center. And then there is the fact that Marleau is consistently one of the bottom 5 forwards on the Sharks in GAon/60 every year and I'm not sure he is an upgrade on Bozak in his own end.
 
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That's the thing, the UFA pool is so bad, the contracts are going to be so ridiculous. Weiss isn't good enough imo. Always been a tad overrated.
 
leafman101 said:
Marleau seems to be on the down side of things, and given that his is a perennial playoff magician's disappearing act and has been shifted to the wing for most of his career because he isn't all that great of a defensive center I'd probably avoid paying the price for him.

Its too bad Weiss got hurt. He would give us what the Bruins have in Bergeron.
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Nope. Marleau is the one guy on that Sharks team who pretty consistently shows up in the playoffs.
 
JackBurton said:
That's the thing, the UFA pool is so bad, the contracts are going to be so ridiculous. Weiss isn't good enough imo. Always been a tad overrated.
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Weiss sucks..I can't believe someone would try to make our team crappier just because of hate for a player he thinks isn't that good..What else is new though?..I hope RC just sticks with what we have..With Lups back we'll be a force..
 
MindzEye said:
Nope. Marleau is the one guy on that Sharks team who pretty consistently shows up in the playoffs.
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Couldn't be further from the truth. He has had one good playoff run in the last 6 years. Every other year he is a shadow of his regular season self.

Over the last 7 years he has averaged 60 point paces in the playoffs (59.8 points). Over the last 6 years he has averaged a 52 point pace and if you take out his only good year over that stretch he has played at a 46 point pace (his career playoff average is 56 points).

The only thing he has consistently done in the playoffs is disappoint.
 
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An upgrade at center would be nice. Stastny would be an upgrade on bozak no doubt, albeit and expensive one.
 
expensive in the pocket book, but the need far outweighs the cost. Also at his salary, it would actually be easier to get as you can say you are doing the Avs a favour by taking the contract.

My top three trade deadline deals..

Ribeiro
Statsny
Marleau

I really think Statsny could thrive up here. His pedigree reminds me of what we lost in Steen.
 
What do we give up? Bozak would have to be moved either in this trade or another. I'm torn between who I'd rather have on the team, grabo or bozak. After watching live last night, I saw the kind of menace grabo can be. BUT that mind of determination he plays with is sporadic. Meanwhile bozak although dragging our 1st line, is a useful face off man. Grabo is signed at stupid money, and now I fear seeing what bozak gets in the offseason.

Then comes that argument on which is a better fit with the team. These are people after all. Who is more in sync with the team and its surroundings.

Tough call.
 
Thornton does look pretty incredible in that lineup.

JVR Thornton Kessel
Lupul Kadri Kulemin

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hockeylover said:
Marleau, Thornton, or neither? And if neither, who would be your targets?
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I'm not picky, would be nice to add another top-6 forward before the deadline.

Cost is of course an issue - any deals should have a conditional aspect to them based on whether the player resigns with the Leafs.
 
hockeylover said:
Marleau, Thornton, or neither? And if neither, who would be your targets?
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Thornton would be the guy I want. He's a little old, but he hasn't shown any signs of slowing down from his usual ~PPG pace. And though I've blasted him at times in the past for being "no-show-Joe", his playoff numbers the past few years are pretty good, and he wouldn't be relied upon to be "the guy" here anyways. And being able to throw him on a line with Kessel, while having Lupul/Kadri on another line would give us an absolutely deadly top-six group of forwards that would be a nightmare to match up against.

As for Marleau, I just don't see the fit. He's an extremely highly paid shoot-first winger, and one that's been wildly inconsistent this year.

Marleau's first five games this year: G 9, A 4, Pts 13
Marleau's next twenty-five games: G 6, A 4, Pts 10

And then for Stephen Weiss as a UFA in the off-season, no interest in him either. I've always seen him as an extremely over-hyped Matt Stajan. Frankly, I don't even really believe that he'd be much of an upgrade over Bozak.
 
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