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Montana said:
Too. Rich.
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Just because a deal doesn't go through, doesn't mean Nonis hasn't used bad judgement.

Regardless of the parameters of the deal, apparently, Nonis believes adding the worst starter in the NHL currently would improve the Leafs situation.

That to me, is bad judgement.

Now, if Nonis comes out and says it's all made up, that's a different story.
 
LeafGm said:
Nope. Besides the fact that the Flames would reap absolutely no benefit from sending Kiprusoff down to the AHL, Kipper's got an NMC, so he's driving the bus here.
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Kiprusoff's NMC expired last year.

He won't come free. We'll have to trade something for him, even if it's a 3rd rounder. The huge amount of cap space he'll eat up is also a highly valuable asset, ditto for the compliance buyout we'd have to waste on him if we don't want to keep him and his nearly $6M cap hit around next year.
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He'll cost next to nothing. A career AHLer.

You hope. The one good thing is that I have a lot of faith that Randy Carlyle will play the goalie that's playing the best, but I hate the idea of dumping Ben Scrivens or sticking him up in the press box as the third goalie in favour of a guy who's would be looking up the goalie standings at Raycroft and Toskala in their worst years for us.
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Based on Nonis own statement from one day ago, he is clearly looking for a goalie with NHL playoff experience to join the Marlies. I'm not making this up. You can read the quote above.
 
mbow30 said:
you know what would really suck? if reimer gets hurt... again... like he has in virtually every season of his career... and team is forced into a playoff tandem of ben scrivens and jussy rynnas for their first appearance since 2004.

there is also no saying how reimer will hold up late in the season. he has played in 40 or more games just two times throughout his entire career dating back to his years in the W. he has topped 60 once in his entire major-junior and professional career (60 in 06-07); his only other season over 40 gp was the 42 gp he played between the leafs and marlies in 10-11. over his major junior and pro careers (05-06 through 2013) he has played in just 15 playoff games -- 7 in the W and 8 in the ECHL. since going pro in 08-09 he has just 173 gp under his belt, and 36 of those were in the echl (including his 8 games of playoff experience with the south carolina stingrays).

the leafs' backup is ben scrivens, a 26 year old rookie out of the ncaa also with limited experience. the team has played demonstrably poorer in front of scrivens, who has been steady but is a fundamentally shaky goaltender (let's be honest, he has a penchant for really bad goals against and his rebound control is bad, at best), than they have in front of reimer.

not only that... this is a really young team thatm, should reimer go down or hit a wall, would likely find itself in a lot of troulbe.,

which isn't to say kiprusoff is the answer but the interest in a goalie is certainly understandable.
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That's all well and good, but you nailed it in the last line.

An insurance policy in net, i.e. Khabibulin, Biron would be understandable. But not if that insurance policy a) has been the worst starter in the league this year; b) costs ~$6 million in cap space this year and next.

Hell, I'd still be okay with acquiring Luongo under the right circumstances. I just want no part of Kipper.
 
sir pyscho sexy said:
That's all well and good, but you nailed it in the last line.

An insurance policy in net, i.e. Khabibulin, Biron would be understandable. But not if that insurance policy a) has been the worst starter in the league this year; b) costs ~$6 million in cap space this year and next.

Hell, I'd still be okay with acquiring Luongo under the right circumstances. I just want no part of Kipper.
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i doubt the rangers trade biron to a team they might well meet in teh playoffs.

and i'd bet edmonton wants to keep khabibulin around for the same reaosn the leafs may be interested in him
 
I'll post it again, since mini's hysteria seems to be causing temporary blindness:

Nonis: Experience and depth. We feel like where we are with our goaltending with the Marlies as it’s been pretty good. But there’s not a lot of playoff experience with those goalies. We’d like to get them some… If we had someone there that played a lot of playoff games, some NHL playoff games, and was a real good third, then we wouldn’t be in the market at all. But having someone there [ON THE MARLIES] that could help in the event that we would need them would just make sense for us. But I have to caution everybody that it’s only if it makes sense for us and if the price tag is reasonable. If not, we’re comfortable with what we have.
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It is unequivocal what he's looking for - a goalie with NHL playoff experience to join the Marlies. Depth.

It's not ludicrous, imaginary or anything to get your panties in a knot about.
 
BeLeafer said:
I'll post it again, since mini's hysteria seems to be causing temporary blindness:



It is unequivocal what he's looking for - a goalie with NHL playoff experience to join the Marlies. Depth.

It's not ludicrous, imaginary or anything to get your panties in a knot about.
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But Nonis didn't actually say the Marlies, did he?
 
Forgive me if this has been mentioned before....but...any chance all this Nonis/Kipper talk is just mind games to bring down the price of what Van wants for Lou?
 
BeLeafer said:
Kiprusoff's NMC expired last year.
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Ok then, so explain to me what possible rationale the Flames would have for sending him down to Abbottsford?

He'll cost next to nothing. A career AHLer.
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We'll see.

Based on Nonis own statement from one day ago, he is clearly looking for a goalie with NHL playoff experience to join the Marlies. I'm not making this up. You can read the quote above.
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I read the statement. But if you think that AHL goalie is Kiprusoff, I think you're dreaming in technicolour. And you've still deftly avoided the fact that immediately upon acquiring him, we'd have to throw him on waivers to send him down to the Marlies. So again, do you think Nonis would go to all this time and effort, only to give every NHL team the chance to have Kiprusoff for free?
 
BeLeafer said:
Yes, he's very clear about it. Read it again.
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I read it many times, and if you actually watch the video (it is on Mapleleafs.com. YouTube) with the reporter's question and his corresponding answer, it's quite clear to me he's talking about NHL, not AHL.

And nobody in his right mind would trade Kiprusoff for the AHL ...
 
Did Nonis actually say "on the Marlies" or did you add that in?

And yeah, 1 + 1 =/= 3. If Nonis wants an AHL goalies... but he's talking about Kipper... those don't equate. Kipper, shitty as he may be, is not an AHL goalie. You don't commit $6 million in cap space to acquire a guy you think will be playing in the minors. Unless you're an idiot.
 
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