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Luongo is a hall of famer that will likely win a cup before its all said and done just like Belfour did.

Maybe they don't need him. But he'd definitely make them better.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Might as well just deal Scrivens and Reimer then. If you bring him in, you need to play him a lot for him to be worth that contract.

It would be so Leafs to bring in an old guy, with a huge contract who has performed worse this season than the guys they currently have.
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Reimer has problems staying healthy.

Reimer has not proven that he can be a .920 goalie over the course of a full season.

Scrivens is even less proven/talented than Reimer, and is just as inexperienced.


It really isn't difficult to see why the Leafs are looking to add a goalie. I know it seems silly because you can simply look at the numbers over 30 games and say "well Reimer is putting up better stats than Luongo!". If you actually believe that he gives the team a better chance to win than Luongo does, then the criticism you have received over the last few days is more than warranted.
 
Imagine a deal for Kipper and an extension for Bozak at an ugly number?

This board would explode....and someone might burn my house down.
 
leaffan2005 said:
Reimer has problems staying healthy.

Reimer has not proven that he can be a .920 goalie over the course of a full season.

Scrivens is even less proven/talented than Reimer, and is just as inexperienced.

It really isn't difficult to see why the Leafs are looking to add a goalie. I know it seems silly because you can simply look at the numbers over 30 games and say "well Reimer is putting up better stats than Luongo!". If you actually believe that he gives the team a better chance to win than Luongo does, then the criticism you have received over the last few days is more than warranted.
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I would agree with this, but is Luongo that much better than Reimer where you tie up the assets used to get Luongo and cap room to keep him?

I personally dont think so.

Kipper is flat out worse than Reimer.
 
Even if Luongo reverts back to 920ish goaltending, that isn't an improvement on the Leafs are currently getting. They would just be spending more money to get the same goaltending.

Not to mention, Luongo is 34 and is a lot more likely to decline than to maintain or improve his career performance as he ages.

I was against getting Luongo before the season. I'm against getting Luongo now. And I will be against getting Luongo next offseason. Unless maybe if Reimer/Scrivens get hit by cars crossing the road. It isn't a good investment in a cap system when you already have good, cheap goaltending.
 
He really is witty..

Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown 17m Everyone waiting to see if the Leafs finally move decisively to address their season-long hole at “struggling goaltender”.
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leaffan2005 said:
Reimer has problems staying healthy.

Reimer has not proven that he can be a .920 goalie over the course of a full season.

Scrivens is even less proven/talented than Reimer, and is just as inexperienced.


It really isn't difficult to see why the Leafs are looking to add a goalie. I know it seems silly because you can simply look at the numbers over 30 games and say "well Reimer is putting up better stats than Luongo!". If you actually believe that he gives the team a better chance to win than Luongo does, then the criticism you have received over the last few days is more than warranted.
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No, I looked at the numbers over multiple seasons.

That's what's allowed me to project exactly what's happened over the fist 30 games.
 
BeLeafer said:
Leafs are already going to make the playoffs without Luongo and he certainly doesn't guarantee a long playoff run. No way MLSE agrees to eat that contract for 1.25 years of service.
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I desperately want them to eat the contract of Rick Dipietro. Wang will order Snow to give up a lot with Dipietro in a trade in exchange for the Leafs paying that horrific contract.
 
The team is 7th in SV%, playing at a 117 point pace with it's current starter and 100 point pace overall and all anyone talks about is goaltending.

But nah, we can't afford to see what they can do over a longer period.

It really amazes me.
 
I'll say it again ... I am perfectly comfortable staying with Reimer + Scrivens and assess the situation year by year.

But I do admit Luongo is hall of famer who will most probably retire with a ring or 2. If we can acquire such a goalie, still very much in his prime, for close to nothing, except just picking up his cap hit ... I think I'm ok with that too.

It doesn't mean it pushes Reimer out. It can easily be a Luongo - Schneider situation all over again, giving us 2 solid #1 elite goalies and a chance to trade one for improvement in another year in 1.5 - 2 yrs time.

It does mean, in all likelihood, the end of Scrivens' career as a Leaf.


However, please please please, say no to Kipper.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
The team is 7th in SV%, playing at a 117 point pace with it's current starter and 100 point pace overall and all anyone talks about is goaltending.

It really amazes me.
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That much is true.

However I will say this - there isn't a hall of famer, elite center available out there.

Nor is there a winger, nor a defenseman.

But there is a HoF goalie available out there, very much in his prime.

That's the only difference.
 
JackBurton said:
I desperately want them to eat the contract of Rick Dipietro. Wang will order Snow to give up a lot with Dipietro in a trade in exchange for the Leafs paying that horrific contract.
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Probably too much cash for even MLSE, but it could bag some sweet assets if they were willing.
 
The Leafs goaltending is laughably underrated. The ONLY reason you trade for an expensive veteran is if the team was that one piece away from winning the cup. They are not. They are extremely young. Stick with your two solid cheap young goalies.

No one is touching that Luongo contract. It's a joke. I still hear the media claim Florida wants him. ZERO chance of that happening.
 
BeLeafer said:
Probably too much cash for even MLSE, but it could bag some sweet assets if they were willing.
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You could really exploit Wang's situation with cash.

While it does seem like too much, they may have to give Bargani a massive buy-out so why not do it for the Leafs.
 
Nonis is looking for a third option as insurance. He's been very clear about that. All this Luongo crap is coming from Vancouver.
 
Anyways, I'm done on this.

Bring in Luongo, bring in Kipper, bring in whichever other great old guy is out there. Blow up the cap with experienced, old, expensive goalies.

I guess that's our primary need apparently.
 
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