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Think we really lucked out to not have any games in the few games leading up to the trade deadline this year. Don't have any data to back it up, but I don't think our record has been good near the trade deadline over the years. The hounds that are the Toronto media probably don't help with this.

Even though we didn't upgrade much today, this sends a message to the youngyins that management believes in them. Being a tight knit group and getting some big performances early on could allow us to make some noise in the playoffs. All comes down to goaltending.
 
Talent for talent, value for value, that Scrivens offer is a joke. We rape them in that deal, except that the contract rapes us for the next several years.

I just don't see how a Luongo deal goes down other than Reimer AND Scrivens getting blown out of the water the rest of the way and in the playoffs.

Otherwise, where is the incentive to take on that deal.
 
leafman101 said:
I would have said the same 5 minutes ago, but Scrivens and 2 2nds? If thats true he can't want him that badly.
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It just sounds to me like: (a) he's a man of his word and won't trade youth for a vet, and; (b) thinks Scrivens is worth hanging onto.
 
Thing is, Gillis is stupid enough to think he will hold more leverage should our young goalies falter in the playoffs. Not knowing that there will be 429374923749234 quality goalies available in the off-season in free agency.

What a tool.
 
leaffan2005 said:
Thing is, Gillis is stupid enough to think he will hold more leverage should our young goalies falter in the playoffs. Not knowing that there will be 429374923749234 quality goalies available in the off-season in free agency.

What a tool.
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If they do stumble, it's not even time to hit the panic button. Reimer will get another full year at least, imo.
 
Montana said:
I used to loathe this guy......but between his starting up that twitter account, the Vancouver fans turning on him, and how he's handled this whole situation, I love the guy now.
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Same, his twitter account and sense of humor have started to turn my opinion. Would still prefer to stick it to Van and make them buy him out and then sign him after.
 
Montana said:
I used to loathe this guy......but between his starting up that twitter account, the Vancouver fans turning on him, and how he's handled this whole situation, I love the guy now.
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I've gotta admit that I've warmed to him a lot since this all went down. He's been a stand up guy. He's got no one to blame but himself for that contract, but he certainly didn't expect Gillis to turn on him and the rules of the game to change distinctly against his favour.
 
leaffan2005 said:
Thing is, Gillis is stupid enough to think he will hold more leverage should our young goalies falter in the playoffs. Not knowing that there will be 429374923749234 quality goalies available in the off-season in free agency.

What a tool.
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Here's the thing most people seem to overlook....every year Gillis holds onto Luongo he tacks the Canucks with another year of cap penalties down the road when Lu retires. They've already got $7.43 million in future cap penalties from the deal already, and would tack on another $1.4 to that if they keep him next year.

Plus, keeping Luongo for 2014, would be yet another season where Gillis ate up $5.3 million in cap space (and $6.7 million of his bosses money) on a backup goalie, that could have been better used to bolster a legit Cup contender.


....Gillis' price drops this summer, no matter what, imo.
 
I'm thinking a lot about amnesties today, and the possibilities they can create.

In doing so, I'm actually pretty shocked that not one team wanted to take a gamble on Komi and his measly one year left next year.

I really think the Grabs contract is going to kill us. I'd like to keep Bozak as our third line center, and injury replacement on the top two lines. But no way to get rid of Grabs without the amnesty.
 
Montana said:
Here's the thing most people seem to overlook....every year Gillis holds onto Luongo he tacks the Canucks with another year of cap penalties down the road when Lu retires. They've already got $7.43 million in future cap penalties from the deal already, and would tack on another $1.4 to that if they keep him next year.

Plus, keeping Luongo for 2014, would be yet another season where Gillis ate up $5.3 million in cap space (and $6.7 million of his bosses money) on a backup goalie, that could have been better used to bolster a legit Cup contender.


....Gillis' price drops this summer, no matter what, imo.
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How far can it drop that it makes a difference? It's already at next to zero. Scrivens and two 2nds???

Nothing changes the situation as long as that contract is there. I've always thought, as an NHLer, I'm not sure I'd even want a 10 year deal. Do 5, make more than enough money to last a lifetime, and then sign another one. Keep SOME flexibility.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
I mean, if they were to take Grabs and Liles, and say we can trade Reimer for some really good forward or dman, then I guess it would be doable.
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Or if they'd just take Grabs for him.

Then you just need to hope his body holds up.
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I'd have zero interest in Luongo if I didn't think this was the case.....he's an incredibly well conditioned athlete.
 
I can't see that contract being any more attractive next year. The only thing that makes it remotely plausible is that Luongo has certainly been humbled by this experience. While unpleasant, it's character building and he's handling it very well. This suggests that he could handle being a backup/platoon guy elsehwhere, which is easliy what he becomes long before that contract expires.

It's still very unattractive though.
 
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