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BeLeafer said:
You know who has a worse career s%?

Patrick Roy, Khabibulin, Belfour, Turco, Ward ...

His mediocre career s% is 23rd all time ... a mere point behind Brodeur and Giguere.
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using goalies who spent the majority of their careers in a different era of save percentage, or who started their careers from a very young age like Ward, doesn't help your case for Kipper - a goalie whose career has existed entirely within the current era of save percentage, and who didn't get his career started until his mid to late 20s.


Your stats use here proves you simply don't understand the save percentage stat to begin with.
 
Here you go GM.

number17 said:
Nonis was just on TSN

- Said all along the interest in Kipper was 'a depth goaltender'- "Reimer and Scrivens are our 2 goaltenders, they are the ones who took us to where we are and they will continue to be the guys we count on in goal. That was not going to change (with the potential trade), that is not going to change for a long time.
- So he's clarifying all along he was thinking of bringing in Kipper as a #3
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So, no, I'm not insane. Quite the reverse. I'm just not prepared to assume Nonis is a dummy or prepared to sell out Reimer's future.
 
zeke said:
using goalies who spent the majority of their careers in a different era of save percentage, or who started their careers from a very young age like Ward, doesn't help your case for Kipper - a goalie whose career has existed entirely within the current era of save percentage, and who didn't get his career started until his mid to late 20s.


Your stats use here proves you simply don't understand the save percentage stat to begin with.
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Sure thing there, zeke. I recall some time ago explaining to you why that stat is so important.
 
If your defense of the pursuit is that Calgary was going to eat a bunch of Kipper's salary next year (I don't really see that they would've done that but let's go with it), and we were going to extend him for really cheap to play behind and mentor Reimer? Well, I guess that makes sense. But I don't see-any way of Scrivens staying if that happens and I certainly don't see extending a player you PLAN to ship to the Marlies.
 
Quite entertaining to see zeke post that list as proof that Kiprusoff sucks and is nowhere near as good as Reimer. Hmm, wonder where he is on the list...
 
I find it interesting that Beleafer thinks Nonis isn't a liar....How does Hugh Laurie say?..EVERYONE LIES! You don't go on tv and say..Yes i'm interested in replacing one of my goalies.
 
hockeylover said:
If your defense of the pursuit is that Calgary was going to eat a bunch of Kipper's salary next year (I don't really see that they would've done that but let's go with it), and we were going to extend him for really cheap to play behind and mentor Reimer? Well, I guess that makes sense.
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...and I want to be clear, I'm not defending it. I didn't want to see that move at all

I was solely trying to shed some perspective on it, that it may not have been as utterly insane as people were all assuming. Felt like everyone believe he was going to deal assets for him, pay his entire salary next year, and then extend him for $5 million per. If he'd done that, then yeah Nonis would be utterly insane and worthy of being fired on the spot, but I just can't see that having been the case.

Again though, if it was.....then yourself, zeke, and Player are all not only right, you're 100% deserving of being worried about him as GM going forward.
 
hockeylover said:
If your defense of the pursuit is that Calgary was going to eat a bunch of Kipper's salary next year (I don't really see that they would've done that but let's go with it), and we were going to extend him for really cheap to play behind and mentor Reimer? Well, I guess that makes sense. But I don't see-any way of Scrivens staying if that happens and I certainly don't see extending a player you PLAN to ship to the Marlies.
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I think that's part of his argument too but somehow he went too far with it..but anyways..
 
Montana said:
...and I want to be clear, I'm not defending it. I didn't want to see that move at all.....I was solely trying to shed some perspective on it, that it may not have been as utterly insane as people were all assuming. Felt like everyone believe he was going to deal assets for him, pay his entire salary next year, and then extend him for $5 million per. If he'd done that, then yeah Nonis would be utterly insane and worthy of being fired on the spot, but I just can't see that having been the case.

Again though, if it was.....then yourself, zeke, and Player are all not only right, you're 100% deserving of being worried about him as GM going forward.
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Even if it's only one of those three, I still think it was a bad idea... Don't see it as necessary at all.
 
I've searched and can find no quote of Nonis saying he had a deal to extend Kiprusoff. Further, mbow reported previously that the CBA prevents them from negotiating an extension at this time.

This interview, he says that the deal would have allowed them to retain both Reimer and Scrivens ... I assume that means not waiving Scrivens.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nonis-deal-was-in-place-for-kiprusoff/

So, where did he say this business about extending him? Maybe someone heard what they wanted to hear?
 
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