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Leaf Rumours

organicsteroid said:
True enough about the other seven seasons, but this time around, it didn't work. For either of them. In terms of my rumours. The only one I hope doesn't happen is Gardiner for the seventh pick. I think Gardiner is even better than Kaberle was for those magic three or four seasons. And one of the main reasons we threw such a scare into the Bruins, as he opened up the entire ice surface.

Pretty amazing when you consider that the Bruins shut down supposedly far greater players in Pittsburgh.

If we trade Gardiner to go and play with Schulz, I predict that this will be the catalyst that propels Edmonton into elite status. I hope it doesn't happen, although it sure would be great to get Sean Monahan, basically a Toronto resident playing in his home town.

I would love to see more goalie depth, I like Reimer, but he didn't play as well as Rask, even though so far, no one has.

David Clarkson? Love to see that, big time. If you liked Jay McClemment, we would love Clarkson. But same mould, old time hockey tough.
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i don't like jay mcclement at north of $4mn, though.

i don't like jay mcclement at north of $2mn.

and from the sounds of it clarkson might be able to command north of $5.
 
Blueman said:
You reply to a post that is over 2 weeks old. So let me get this straight - Richards was never a fast skater and relies on vision, ice smarts, etc however the lack of speed since he's now over 30 has impacted his game in a bad way?

Please do not reply to my posts.
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yeah but even that slight drop in speed might impact his ability to turn on a guy, or create separation on the perimeter.

plus you definitely do lose some of your fast twitch ability as you age.

i mean old guys get worse. for some guys it's a nearly imperceptible graceful decline. some guys just fall off a cliff completely.

for others you see stages of marked decline.

not writing off richards yet nor would i be entirely surprised to see him bounce back to 70+ point form.

but that is less likely than him just no longer being a ppg first line centre because he's in his early 30s and has lost a step.
 
I'm still very much on board with trading Reilly for a top pick that we could use to take a center.

He may be great, but he's still unknown, he may be superfluous given the great dmen we already have, and he's enough of a chip on his own to get something done without costing us any more assets.
 
Yes, its is indeed teeds. And you know what? I never got off to a good start on this board from the get go, as someone "acquired" the name teeder before I even arrived. For obvious reasons, to me anyways.

Anyways, interesting season. One in which I think we had a very good team for a short season. Fast, quick, shifty etc...

And one that probably needs to be bigger for a full season. Most likely. As the Bruins are demonstrating, having two skilled Cro Magnon thugs, in todays ever shrinking ice surface, wins playoff games.

We had a team that had some really fast forwards, Bozak, Kessel, Grabovski etc... and it was fun to watch. But I have to think, that from here on out, BEEF is going to be the defining spirit of future Leaf acquistions.

Not to say there isn't room for the little guy in the NHL, Brad Marchand is proving that, but he has to be surrounded by some guys that can back him up and others off.

So from that standpoint, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nonis trade the most electric dman I have ever seen on a Leaf blueline. A guy who in my opinion was totally fawked over by MLSE, as Kadri was previously. And when inserted, just ripped up the Boston Bruins chalkboard and game plan.

To his credit, Franson joined in with Gardiner and the two of them pulled a Gary Roberts Alyn McCauley act that was amazing. Only to be let down by Randy Carlyle who even with Zdeno Chara standing in front of the net at 4-2, couldn't figure out what to do and call a time out.

Trade Rielly? Go right ahead, for any top ten pick in this years draft. Trade Gardiner? Well that would be insane in my opinion, but it wouldn't surprise me. I just cannot imagine he and his agent are all that popular after doing everything in their power to get this daft MLSE braintrust to get him in the lineup.

And Rielly? Man, I still cannot believe we selected that guy over Forsberg. As i said on many occasions, people in hockey were so shocked that Burke pulled an about face and overlooked Forsberg, five more teams passed on Forsberg.

But what happened with Forsberg? A team that was IN the playoffs, went and traded their playoff chances, just to get this kid and they promptly swooned and fell out of contention. (Nashville)

I love our team and loved some of our shit this year, but management befuddles me, going with two rookies in net all year and only at the trade deadline make a lame Hail Mary Pass for a guy with a sub 900% save perecentage, only to get shot down by the poor guy. Talk about egg all over your face, how is that supposed to make Reimer feel?

Every team in the NHL has needs, but for us to be competitive next year, in a full season, we need someone to push or back up Reimer other than Scrivens and we need to be bigger up front.

And in closing, was trading David Steckel for a seventh round draft choice really necessary? Do you think his faceoff prowess might have helped in the last ten minutes of game seven? I sure do. I guess we might have lost Frattin I suppose if we tried to incubate Steckel, but Frattin and Kadri just laid nothing but eggs in the playoffs, pretty disappointing and makes me think they were most likely banged up or banging up.

Sorry for the long post, been a long time.
 
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organicsteroid said:
Yes, its is indeed teeds. And you know what? I never got off to a good start on this board from the get go, as someone "acquired" the name teeder before I even arrived. For obvious reasons, to me anyways.

Anyways, interesting season. One in which I think we had a very good team for a short season. Fast, quick, shifty etc...

And one that probably needs to be bigger for a full season. Most likely. As the Bruins are demonstrating, having two skilled Cro Magnon thugs, in todays ever shrinking ice surface, wins playoff games.

We had a team that had some really fast forwards, Bozak, Kessel, Grabovski etc... and it was fun to watch. But I have to think, that from here on out, BEEF is going to be the defining spirit of future Leaf acquistions.

Not to say there isn't room for the little guy in the NHL, Brad Marchand is proving that, but he has to be surrounded by some guys that can back him up and others off.

So from that standpoint, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nonis trade the most electric dman I have ever seen on a Leaf blueline. A guy who in my opinion was totally fawked over by MLSE, as Kadri was previously. And when inserted, just ripped up the Boston Bruins chalkboard and game plan.

To his credit, Franson joined in with Gardiner and the two of them pulled a Gary Roberts Alyn McCauley act that was amazing. Only to be let down by Randy Carlyle who even with Zdeno Chara standing in front of the net at 4-2, couldn't figure out what to do and call a time out.

Trade Rielly? Go right ahead, for any top ten pick in this years draft. Trade Gardiner? Well that would be insane in my opinion, but it wouldn't surprise me. I just cannot imagine he and his agent are all that popular after doing everything in their power to get this daft MLSE braintrust to get him in the lineup.

And Rielly? Man, I still cannot believe we selected that guy over Forsberg. As i said on many occasions, people in hockey were so shocked that Burke pulled an about face and overlooked Forsberg, five more teams passed on Forsberg.

But what happened with Forsberg? A team that was IN the playoffs, went and traded their playoff chances, just to get this kid and they promptly swooned and fell out of contention. (Nashville)

I love our team and loved some of our shit this year, but management befuddles me, going with two rookies in net all year and only at the trade deadline make a lame Hail Mary Pass for a guy with a sub 900% save perecentage, only to get shot down by the poor guy. Talk about egg all over your face, how is that supposed to make Reimer feel?

Every team in the NHL has needs, but for us to be competitive next year, in a full season, we need someone to push or back up Reimer other than Scrivens and we need to be bigger up front.

And in closing, was trading David Steckel for a seventh round draft choice really necessary? Do you think his faceoff prowess might have helped in the last ten minutes of game seven? I sure do. I guess we might have lost Frattin I suppose if we tried to incubate Steckel, but Frattin and Kadri just laid nothing but eggs in the playoffs, pretty disappointing and makes me think they were most likely banged up or banging up.

Sorry for the long post, been a long time.
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HODOR!!!!!
 
Hey guys, take it ease. Different opinions and viewpoints are what makes this place IMHO. There were no personal attacks etc so why not just read or ignore. Fresh starts.
 
And Rielly? Man, I still cannot believe we selected that guy over Forsberg. As i said on many occasions, people in hockey were so shocked that Burke pulled an about face and overlooked Forsberg, five more teams passed on Forsberg.
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Fresh. Creamery. Butter

Rielly was better offensively in the WHL than Forsberg was in Swe-1 (which is similar in quality to the ECHL)....why are we supposed to be broken up over not drafting him? The hockey world was really shocked when Burke took a kid that scouts felt had 1st-2nd overall level talent, in the 5 hole?

Come on man...we've played this game before and it wasn't fun back then, let's not go there again.
 
organicsteroid said:
Yes, its is indeed teeds. And you know what? I never got off to a good start on this board from the get go, as someone "acquired" the name teeder before I even arrived. For obvious reasons, to me anyways.

Anyways, interesting season. One in which I think we had a very good team for a short season. Fast, quick, shifty etc...

And one that probably needs to be bigger for a full season. Most likely. As the Bruins are demonstrating, having two skilled Cro Magnon thugs, in todays ever shrinking ice surface, wins playoff games.

We had a team that had some really fast forwards, Bozak, Kessel, Grabovski etc... and it was fun to watch. But I have to think, that from here on out, BEEF is going to be the defining spirit of future Leaf acquistions.

Not to say there isn't room for the little guy in the NHL, Brad Marchand is proving that, but he has to be surrounded by some guys that can back him up and others off.

So from that standpoint, I wouldn't be surprised to see Nonis trade the most electric dman I have ever seen on a Leaf blueline. A guy who in my opinion was totally fawked over by MLSE, as Kadri was previously. And when inserted, just ripped up the Boston Bruins chalkboard and game plan.

To his credit, Franson joined in with Gardiner and the two of them pulled a Gary Roberts Alyn McCauley act that was amazing. Only to be let down by Randy Carlyle who even with Zdeno Chara standing in front of the net at 4-2, couldn't figure out what to do and call a time out.

Trade Rielly? Go right ahead, for any top ten pick in this years draft. Trade Gardiner? Well that would be insane in my opinion, but it wouldn't surprise me. I just cannot imagine he and his agent are all that popular after doing everything in their power to get this daft MLSE braintrust to get him in the lineup.

And Rielly? Man, I still cannot believe we selected that guy over Forsberg. As i said on many occasions, people in hockey were so shocked that Burke pulled an about face and overlooked Forsberg, five more teams passed on Forsberg.

But what happened with Forsberg? A team that was IN the playoffs, went and traded their playoff chances, just to get this kid and they promptly swooned and fell out of contention. (Nashville)

I love our team and loved some of our shit this year, but management befuddles me, going with two rookies in net all year and only at the trade deadline make a lame Hail Mary Pass for a guy with a sub 900% save perecentage, only to get shot down by the poor guy. Talk about egg all over your face, how is that supposed to make Reimer feel?

Every team in the NHL has needs, but for us to be competitive next year, in a full season, we need someone to push or back up Reimer other than Scrivens and we need to be bigger up front.

And in closing, was trading David Steckel for a seventh round draft choice really necessary? Do you think his faceoff prowess might have helped in the last ten minutes of game seven? I sure do. I guess we might have lost Frattin I suppose if we tried to incubate Steckel, but Frattin and Kadri just laid nothing but eggs in the playoffs, pretty disappointing and makes me think they were most likely banged up or banging up.

Sorry for the long post, been a long time.
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agreed with most of that until the end there.

I even agree that Jake's play makes me question whether Rielly will be better than him, but no chance I'd rather have Forsberg.

And Frattin and Kadri were pretty dang good in the playoffs, when they were finally given a chance.

But you're even right that Steckel would have been nice faceoff depth to have after Bozak went out. He'd have been a better fill in than colborne.
 
Should be an interesting period around the draft, lots of good players in this draft and there should be a lot to talk about. I personally wish we had taken Forsberg, always will. Rielly is another small guy, on a team of small guys, and while Forsberg is not huge, he is reasonably sized, and has the heart of an Alfredsson.

But I guess if Gardiner brings us a future number one center, we can always offer our opinion that at least we have Rielly in the wings. But I think Gardiner has that extra something that Rielly does not have. Just my opinion, and I know it grates all those Leafies that wear Leaf underwear.
 
I like Clarkson if he's willing to take 3-4 mill a year to play for the Leafs. Wouldn't go above that for him though.

I'd trade one of Gardiner/Rielly for the right player, preferably a young C. I wouldn't trade either for the 7th pick though. But still rather move Gunn/Franson over Rielly/Gardiner.

It sure looks like Bozak is gone, which is probably the right move.
 
organicsteroid said:
Should be an interesting period around the draft, lots of good players in this draft and there should be a lot to talk about. I personally wish we had taken Forsberg, always will. Rielly is another small guy, on a team of small guys, and while Forsberg is not huge, he is reasonably sized, and has the heart of an Alfredsson.

But I guess if Gardiner brings us a future number one center, we can always offer our opinion that at least we have Rielly in the wings. But I think Gardiner has that extra something that Rielly does not have. Just my opinion, and I know it grates all those Leafies that wear Leaf underwear.
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Rielly's really not small. He's a superfit rock solid 6'0" - 6'1" 200+lbs 18 year old.
 
zeke said:
Rielly's really not small. He's a superfit rock solid 6'0" - 6'1" 200+lbs 18 year old.
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I like him to a fair extent,there is no arguing he has ability, but if we had chosen Forsberg there wouldn't be the baited breath of Nonis fawning all over Edmonton in an attempt to snag Monahan. Who incidentally is the best friend of my partners brother. I have not met the lad yet, and as much as i would love to have him, no guarantee he is even going to be there at seven. Hopefully Nonis waits until the sixth picks is drawn at least before trading Bobby Orr lite.
 
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