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Feel free to add the New York Islanders to the list of teams interested in dealing for Los Angeles Kings goalie Jonathan Bernier. According to Newsday's Arthur Staple, it's believed Islanders GM Garth Snow has had "preliminary conversations" with Kings GM Dean Lombardi about a potential trade. Even though the Isles are thought to be "relatively close" to agreeing to a new deal for veteran Evgeni Nabokov, Staple suggests a prospect/draft pick combo pack could secure the 24-year-old RFA-to-be in Long Island.

"... If there is an opportunity to get into a bidding war, Snow may be disinclined to go much above an offer of Nino Niederreiter for Bernier. The disgruntled Niederreiter is likely Snow's top trade chip, but would he throw in the No. 15 pick in next Sunday's draft? That may be what it takes to get into serious talks ..."

The Philadelphia Flyers are also believed to be seriously interested in Bernier (assuming Ilya Bryzgalov is bought out). The Florida Panthers, Edmonton Oilers, and Toronto Maple Leafs could be in the mix as well. ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun recently reported that Lombardi has talked to about 10 teams about Bernier's availability, and it wouldn't come as a surprise if the netminder is "traded before or at the draft ..."

Bernier hooked up with a new agent -- Pat Brisson -- on Monday
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Isles make a lot of sense too
 
I like it. Nonis can't be stupid enough to get in a bidding war with teams that would be looking to make Bernier their fulltime starting goalie.

It's funny with goalies - next year we might finally approach a situation where almost no team has a bad goalie, if the likes of Bernier, Luongo/Schneider, Fleury/Vokoun move on to the few teams that have no legit starting goalies going forward - i.e. NYI, CAL, FLA, etc.
 
Isn't Nabakov a UFA?? I would think that even if he wasn't, he would be an interesting choice for a back up here.

Some reports are that the Blues are going to go with one goalie and Halak will be the one on the way out.
 
I'd say screw backups.

Either we go big (Luongo) or just stick with what we have.

I'd much, much rather we stick with what we have.

Going for a guy like Kipper is insanity. You still have to pay for the trade (at least in the trade deadline scenario, the price was most probably a 3rd rounder only) but there's no guarantee that backup you acquire will be better than Scrivens.

I don't particularly like Luongo, but I cannot deny a guy like Luongo would solidify our goaltender situation. He is a big name, and you know what he would give you for the next 3-4 years.
 
If somehow a great goalie like Luongo or Vokoun comes available for peanuts, sure go for it, but I'm more than happy with scrivens as a backup otherwise.
 
zeke said:
If somehow a great goalie like Luongo or Vokoun comes available for peanuts, sure go for it, but I'm more than happy with scrivens as a backup otherwise.
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I agree.

At the 11th hour of the trade deadline, it came down to Scrivens + scrubs for Luongo, and even then Nonis said no. I would be ok with that deal. For Vancouver basically they rid Luongo's contract and his distraction. For us it brings in a solid elite veteran goalie.

Anything less than that, just pass on it. I am quite happy with Reimer + Scrivens, and I hope the tandem will be given a chance to continue to develop next season.
 
number17 said:
I'd say screw backups.

Either we go big (Luongo) or just stick with what we have.

I'd much, much rather we stick with what we have.

Going for a guy like Kipper is insanity. You still have to pay for the trade (at least in the trade deadline scenario, the price was most probably a 3rd rounder only) but there's no guarantee that backup you acquire will be better than Scrivens.

I don't particularly like Luongo, but I cannot deny a guy like Luongo would solidify our goaltender situation. He is a big name, and you know what he would give you for the next 3-4 years.
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Kiprusoff is retiring, brah.
 
Mike Smith... I would love to have him as the back up.... Reimer needs to show he can stay healthy and play close to 50-55 games. Smith as the back up and or in case an injury would be great.
 
Hoss said:
Mike Smith... I would love to have him as the back up.... Reimer needs to show he can stay healthy and play close to 50-55 games. Smith as the back up and or in case an injury would be great.
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Mike Smith backing up Reimer? C'mon man, take off the MLSE undies. Heh, I know Reimer can wow, at times, but he is NOT as good as Smith, now, or possibly ever. Reimer when he gets nervous still backs into the net, and that is his undoing. I dunno if we can blame that at the departed Allaire, but as soon as I seen the kid back up, I knows its a loss.

But I agree in having an older goalie instead of Scrivens all the way. Seeing Ben Scrivens sitting on the bench cannot be a big motivator for our d corps.
 
organicsteroid said:
Mike Smith backing up Reimer? C'mon man, take off the MLSE undies. Heh, I know Reimer can wow, at times, but he is NOT as good as Smith, now, or possibly ever. Reimer when he gets nervous still backs into the net, and that is his undoing. I dunno if we can blame that at the departed Allaire, but as soon as I seen the kid back up, I knows its a loss.

But I agree in having an older goalie instead of Scrivens all the way. Seeing Ben Scrivens sitting on the bench cannot be a big motivator for our d corps.
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10/11:
Smith: 22 gms, 899 SV%
Reimer: 37 gms, 921 SV%

11/12:
Smith: 67 gms, 930 SV%
Reimer: 34 gms, 900 SV%

12/13:
Smith: 34 gms, 910 SV%
Reimer: 33 gms, 924 SV%


Reimer was a lot better this year, and he's been better 2 of the last 3 years.

I'm not even sure Smith would be an upgrade over Scrivens, who also outperformed him this year.

Unless a clear upgrade is available on what we have, just say no to expensive vet goalies. They just aren't worth it.
 
leafman101 said:
He was a non factor all season. But why wouldn't he be able to reclaim his career? There is no reason. Players have bad seasons all the time.
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I tend not to trust weird career trajectories personally, and Grabovski not making the show full time until he was 25 suggests a shorter career peak and a sharper drop off.
 
I'm not writing off the possibility that he just magically lost it out of nowhere. But you can't write off the possibility that he just had a bad year and will rebound. And that is the most likely scenario.
 
Would be stupid to trade for any goalie right now.

Go with what we have, for **** sake, it'll only serve us even better this year. And use the money for positions that we're actually weak in.
 
Volcanologist said:
rebound to what though?

grabovski is very unlikely to ever give us 5.5m in value.
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His play the previous 2 years 100% provided that kind of value. He was a top 25-30 offensive center and statistically one of the better defensive centers. He was one of the best 2nd line centers in the NHL those two years.

Thats what that kind of money buys. We see top line players are going for $8+ million now.
 
leafman101 said:
His play the previous 2 years 100% provided that kind of value. He was a top 25-30 offensive center and statistically one of the better defensive centers. He was one of the best 2nd line centers in the NHL those two years.

Thats what that kind of money buys. We see top line players are going for $8+ million now.
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And again, his slide didn't just begin this year. Once he signed the contract the year before he went into the tank.
 
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