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number17 said:
With JVR, Kessel and Lupul, this team shouldn't spend the big dough on another winger. Especially a smallish, skilled winger.
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not without improving the centre position, no...but that's more due to cap reasons than our wing corps being perfect. having JVR Kessel and Lupul shouldn't stop us from landing a significant winger if that opportunity came up. you have to take talent when it becomes available.
 
Volcanologist said:
not without improving the centre position, no...but that's more due to cap reasons than our wing corps being perfect. having JVR Kessel and Lupul shouldn't stop us from landing a significant winger if that opportunity came up. you have to take talent when it becomes available.
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Well ... yeah ... it's like saying just because you already have a Porsche 911 convertible, a Merc GLK and a BMW M5 sedan in your garage shouldn't stop you from getting another car ... :)

If you have unlimited resources, sure. But resources are always limited, and center and #3 dman are far bigger needs for this team before another winger.
 
I'm more than happy with Phaneuf, Gardiner, Franson, Gunnar as our top-4. Those guys are all legit top-4 talents, IMO. I wouldn't invest big money in another dman.

I'm not quite as sold that we have 4 legit top-6 quality wingers, though. Frattin and Kuly work best as 3rd liners for now, I think.
 
number17 said:
Well ... yeah ... it's like saying just because you already have a Porsche 911 convertible, a Merc GLK and a BMW M5 sedan in your garage shouldn't stop you from getting another car ... :)
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Not really, no.

If you have unlimited resources, sure. But resources are always limited, and center and #3 dman are far bigger needs for this team before another winger.
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A center and a #2 dman, you mean. And I already mentioned the cap.
 
Unless the Leafs can get a dmen the level of Phaneuf, they shouldn't be spending any more money on the blueline. Phaneuf, Gardiner, Franson, Gunn is a very good top 4 and you have Rielly on the way as well.

I don't really care about position, C or W, just get the best available forward possible.
 
zeke said:
I'm more than happy with Phaneuf, Gardiner, Franson, Gunnar as our top-4. Those guys are all legit top-4 talents, IMO. I wouldn't invest big money in another dman.

I'm not quite as sold that we have 4 legit top-6 quality wingers, though. Frattin and Kuly work best as 3rd liners for now, I think.
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Yeah I agree. I wouldn't be opposed to upgrading Franson or Gunnar, but that second line RW slot is the biggest hole at this point. A guy like Horton, Jagr or Iginla would be a good fit. It may not be a great free agent class, but there are a number of good, big, scoring 2nd line wingers.
 
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Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper 26m

#Oilers MacTavish #Leafs Nonis had good 10 min talk after GM meeting. Could Tor move up in draft for D man in return? pic.twitter.com/vOk97CIi4L

There's a pic of MActavish and Nonis talking in the hall...

As long as it ain't Gardiner I'll be happy... but you could see Gards being reunited with Shultz therefore it would have to be a bigger deal than just Edmontons first round pick.
 
Jonas Siegel ‏@jonasTSN1050 31s

Nonis on MacArthur: "I would not rule out bringing Clarke back."
 
It would be a terrible move both talent and PR wise, to trade Gardiner after that playoff series he had. Edmonton might bite on Liles.
 
Hoss said:
Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper 26m

#Oilers MacTavish #Leafs Nonis had good 10 min talk after GM meeting. Could Tor move up in draft for D man in return? pic.twitter.com/vOk97CIi4L

There's a pic of MActavish and Nonis talking in the hall...

As long as it ain't Gardiner I'll be happy... but you could see Gards being reunited with Shultz therefore it would have to be a bigger deal than just Edmontons first round pick.
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The only way you could justify such a move is if Nonis has a pretty good idea on the way that the draft order is projected to unfold and you could get Monahan seventh.

Otherwise, I can't see the justification in moving Gardiner for such a gamble.
 
Gardiner is elite. Our whole top four is amazing. I wouldn't change a thing, other than how Carlyle handles them in the last minute of a game 7.

Phaneuf Gunnarson
Gardiner Franson

Perfect. Add a Reilly on the third pairing if he's ready, to ease him in slowly, and we're in big time business.

Or trade him for a first line center, even better.

I wouldn't focus on D at all this summer other than if some good rock solid defensive dman for the third pairing becomes available.
 
Gardiner is just at the age where he can show what he can do this coming season. What's the point in adding an 18 year-old for him that will take years to develop?
 
We're ready to compete now, and contend soon with a few smart additions....there is absolutely zero reason for us to be giving up someone who can be a big part of our now, for anything other than an otherwordly prospect.

Basically...we don't want any pick or prospect that a team would be willing to give up for Jake Gardiner, we would only want the type of picks or prospects nobody would give up for Jake Gardiner. Getting Monahan at the 7 would be sweet and all, but not at the cost of Jake & our 21.

MPS is a non asset as far as I'm concerned.
 
Bernier is a useless acquisition.

Keep Frattin for the third line and see what he turns into.

Trading Gardiner is something that I would fire Nonis for, I almost don't care what we get in return.
 
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