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Leaf Rumours

About half of the nearly dozen clubs rumored to be recently keen on trading for Jonathan Bernier (L.A. Kings) reportedly remain in the mix. ESPN.com's Pierre LeBrun reports five teams still have a "serious interest" in Bernier -- including the Philadelphia Flyers, Toronto Maple Leafs, and New York Islanders.

Philly's interest in the netminder has been well probed of late, in light of Ilya Bryzgalov's potential buyout, and Arthur Staple (Newsday) recently discussed the possibility of the Isles trading Nino Niederreiter to the Kings. Meanwhile Sportsnet's Nick Kypreos insists the Flyers and Maple Leafs are frontrunners for Bernier. As for the other two teams believed to be on the list, the Edmonton Oilers and Florida Panthers aren't in the best of shape, goaltending-wise.
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With pending unrestricted free agent Tyler Bozak and the Toronto Maple Leafs reportedly $2 million apart in negotiations over a new contract, the Leafs have a Plan B in the form of Florida Panthers forward Stephen Weiss.

That's the rumor, anyway. Kevin McGran of the Toronto Star isn't sure it makes much sense.

"If that’s a pressure tactic, it’s an odd one, McGran writes, "since Bozak and Weiss use the same agency, Newport Sports."
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Weiss is a better player than Bozak, I don't doubt.

They put up similar points...but Bozak has2 all stars on his wing...Weiss has....I don't know...

Weiss could/should be a 70 point player if healthy on Toronto...
 
MyNameIsJonas said:
Weiss is a better player than Bozak, I don't doubt.

They put up similar points...but Bozak has2 all stars on his wing...Weiss has....I don't know...

Weiss could/should be a 70 point player if healthy on Toronto...
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That's what they said about Connolly though.

I'd rather just give Grabo the spot and lets see what he can do. You can't have him as a 5 mill 3rd line C
 
Toronto Maple Leafs cooking up deal with Edmonton Oilers for seventh pick?

Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos is raising the possibility of the Edmonton Oilers trading their 7th overall pick in return for a Toronto Maple Leafs defenceman.

On Twitter, Kypreos sent out a photo of Oilers GM Craig MacTavish and Toronto GM Dave Nonis, then said: “#Oilers MacTavish #Leafs Nonis had good 10 min talk after GM meeting. Could Tor move up in draft for D man in return?”

Just idle speculation? Possibly. Probably.

Kypreos, though, is a real NHL insider, part of the village of 300 or s0 insiders who regularly hear what’s going on.

And it’s interesting that Kypreos had the Oilers targeting a defenceman, a specific position.

The only way it makes sense for the Oilers to move the pick is to get a useful Top 4 defenceman or Top 6 forward in return.

Who might that defenceman be on the Leafs?

The Leafs have four d-men in that category right now, their top four minute munchers per game Dion Phaneuf, Michael Kostka, Carl Gunnarsson, and Jake Gardiner.

Gardiner, 22, shoots left, has offensive talent and can play the puck possession game MacTavish talks about wanting the Oilers to play. Gunnarsson, 26, also shoots left, and is more of a shut-down type defenceman.
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http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/20...p-deal-with-edmonton-oilers-for-seventh-pick/
 
What would someone give the Oil for that 7th pick???

They can forget about Gardiner though i'll say that much.
 
I don't think you'd be able to get it without trading Gardiner or Rielly. And I might consider moving one of them for a shot at Barkov, but not Monahan or Lindholm. So I'd forget about #7.
 
If you include pick #21 along with a player, I don't think you'd have to include Rielly or Gardiner in the deal. Straight up for #7 (dman for pick), probably then.
 
But why would they move 7 for 21 and Gunnar or something like that? There is no incentive for Edmonton to make a move like that.
 
actually with guys like schultz and smid they really don't need a guy like gunnarsson, and while every team could use a guy like him you certainly don't give up a top 10 pick for a player like that.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Gunnarsson is exactly the type of dman they need. Very steady defensively, and he has good mobility and puck skills to fit in with what they're trying to do.
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Yeah but they don't have to move a top 10 pick to get a player like that. That kind of trade would be unprecedented.

Unless you are getting a guy worthy of a high selection why do that?

If we want a top 10 pick, barring some team making a huge mistake, its going to cost a guy like Gardiner, Rielly or Franson.
 
mbow30 said:
actually with guys like schultz and smid they really don't need a guy like gunnarsson, and while every team could use a guy like him you certainly don't give up a top 10 pick for a player like that.
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The Oilers sucked defensively last year. One of the worst defensive teams in the league. Blueline was a huge issue defensively.
 
leafman101 said:
Yeah but they don't have to move a top 10 pick to get a player like that. That kind of trade would be unprecedented.

Unless you are getting a guy worthy of a high selection why do that?
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They aren't going to get a star for a draft pick who might turn into a star.

Might get a good player at 7, but likelyhood of a great player is small.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
They aren't going to get a star for a draft pick who might turn into a star.
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Gardiner, and Rielly aren't stars.

Its more like they aren't going to trade a guy who might turn into a star for a decent 2nd liner. That trade literally almost never happens.

I don't care what your personal views of odds on draft picks turning out are. We all know the Leafs aren't getting the 7th pick for a guy like Gunnarson.
 
PlayerToBeNamedLater said:
Much greater likelyhood 7th pick turns into a 2nd liner than a star.
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Yes I know how you feel. But we all know that the values there don't align and the Leafs are never going to get a top 10 pick for Gunnar, whether you would make that trade or not, and trades like that never happen. So who are you trying to fool exactly?

If we want a top 10 pick we are going to have to give up someone we don't want to give up.
 
leafman101 said:
Yes I know how you feel. But we all know that the values there don't align and the Leafs are never going to get a top 10 pick for Gunnar, whether you would make that trade or not, and trades like that never happen. So who are you trying to fool exactly?

If we want a top 10 pick we are going to have to give up someone we don't want to give up.
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Trading Gunnarsson, a young, quality top 4 dman in order to move 14 spots, isn't a bad offer imo.

7th isn't exactly top 3.
 
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