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because of his age, I can see a list of teams interested in Bernier and 1-2 buying into the hype and perhaps a late 1st being a centerpiece.

For a team like Toronto though it would be ill advised.

Calgary?...maybe a smart move.
 
Yeah, Calgary should be the front runner here. Makes a ton of sense. Spare late 1sts to dangle, an absolute need for a goalie with potential (not to mention a name to sell ticket buyers). If Calgary comes out of this summer with Bernier, Lindholm/Monahan, and Fucale/Rychel, etc ....that's going to go a long way to rebooting a franchise that should have started this 2-3 years ago.
 
Additionally...this is the type of draft to flip Bernier at for the Kings. A lot of guys in the 20's that are potential top 6 forwards for them to snag. Most years, anything after a 10-12 pick is really unlikely to yield any sort of impact player.
 
The Flames have a couple of guys with similar potential (and lack of NHL experience) as Bernier in Berra and Ramo. The Flames more pressing need is front-line skaters, they'd be better to flip a pick for an RFA, or simply make their picks IMO.

Bernier to the Devils or Wild makes sense.
 
The Flames have a couple of guys with similar potential (and lack of NHL experience) as Bernier in Berra and Ramo
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This is simply untrue.

The Flames more pressing need is front-line skaters
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When you lack a goaltender, there is no other need more pressing.

Danny Taylor is the best goalie in the Flames system right now. Going with a Bernier/Taylor duo would be a good idea for a team okay with tanking again next season.


Bernier to the Devils or Wild makes sense.
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The Wild have one of the best goaltending prospect pipelines in the NHL right now, and will probably just re sign Backstrom to a short term deal. The Devils would make some sense, but I would expect them to be chasing veteran goaltenders.
 
number17 said:
You don't have to be sold on Bernier, and he doesn't have to be better than Reimer either.

If we can believe Bernier will be better than Scrivens (which I do) then this trade will indeed improve the Leafs' goaltending. Maybe it will improve it a lot (if Bernier can develop into an elite starter) or maybe it will improve it a little (if he develops into a competent 1B) ... but it will improve.

Is goaltending a primary area of concern we need to address this summer? No. Is Bernier gonna be worth the price? Depending on what it is, most likely not really. But it is an improvement nevertheless.

And if Bernier is going to cost us Frattin + 2nd rounder, then I'd say sure, go for it.

The only thing I'd be very cautious with, is what is the mindset of Bernier. He's whined a bit in LA, is he ready to come in and share the net with Reimer, and potentially playing 1B to Reimer's 1A? Can he share the net? If he expects to be the starter and play 60+ games from this point on, then I'd say no to him, regardless of his asking price. I'd much rather go with Reimer + Scrivens if I know Bernier can't share the net.
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I get what your saying I agree with improving when you can, for the right price.

I just feel like, even the 2nd + Frattin you mentioned could be better spent elsewhere. We'll see how it turns out.
 
MindzEye said:
This is simply untrue.



When you lack a goaltender, there is no other need more pressing.

Danny Taylor is the best goalie in the Flames system right now. Going with a Bernier/Taylor duo would be a good idea for a team okay with tanking again next season.




The Wild have one of the best goaltending prospect pipelines in the NHL right now, and will probably just re sign Backstrom to a short term deal. The Devils would make some sense, but I would expect them to be chasing veteran goaltenders.
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So you think Bernier is better than Ramo and a solid first round choice?

If I'm the Flames, I do what the Leafs did and try and develop a goalie while using picks to add youth to the core. If you find your goalie in 2-3 seasons perfect, if not then you've got quality picks. This isn't a quick turnaround for Calgary fans.
 
BG said:
So you think Bernier is better than Ramo and a solid first round choice?
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There's a reason Ramo washed out of the AHL and went to play in the KHL for a few years.

If I'm the Flames, I do what the Leafs did and try and develop a goalie while using picks to add youth to the core. If you find your goalie in 2-3 seasons perfect, if not then you've got quality picks. This isn't a quick turnaround for Calgary fans.
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So...if you're Calgary, you flounder for 6 years trying to find a goalie? Then fall backwards into one?

Interesting strategy.


Bernier has a bit of NHL experience now (62 games), a league averagish SV% (.912) and an elite AHL track records (.927 in 115 games). For the cost of a late 1st, he could potentially solve Calgary's goaltending issues for the next decade.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Specifically a good ole Unionville boy.
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Actually he's a Markham boy, he grew up on Woolen Mill Drive which is just off Ramerville, he grew up 4 streets over from me that's how I know. Unionville is pretty much anything between Highway 7 to 16th ave, and Warden Ave to Kennedy Road, he grew up east of there.
 
This could just be LA trying to up the price but apparently the Leafs have increased the ante for Bernier...

"Sources say the Toronto Maple Leafs have significantly anted up the price to pry Bernier from the Kings and this is yet another reason why the Flyers can’t make a final decision on whether to file a compliance buyout on goalie Ilya Bryzgalov"
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http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/sources-bernier-ante-raised-no-call-bryzgalov



...I dont think Bernier is worth giving up the first round pick. Its looking like the Leafs may end up with Bernier and Weiss as the offseason upgrades...not bad but not great.
 
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Renaud Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS 5m
3 teams are in the running for Jonathan Bernier. Kings are going to take the best offer from Maple Leafs, Flyers or Wild. #RDS
 
If the Wild are in on that are they letting Backstrom walk?...Also don't they have at least one highly regarded prospect themselves?

I don't get the interest from them at all, and I don't get interest from the Toronto end unless the price makes sense, which it doesn't seem to be.

The price appears, and I stress appears to be that of a guy you want to have start for you, not a backup or a 1B
 
Well the interest is he is a 24 year old former first round pick with a career .927 in the AHL and a career .912 in the NHL (.916 since his rookie year) including a .922 this year that is widely seen as one of the best young goalies in the NHL.

I understand the interest. Guys like Bernier aren't exactly traded often. Its a risky move though. You are going to have to be right about him.
 
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