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Hoss said:
From Larry brooks. I guess the rumour of lecavalier sparked a conversation

@NYP_Brooksie: NHL has notified GMs that league will not allow player to be traded, amnestied and then re-signed by original club, Post has learned.
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Calling that the LEAFS rule. Apparently they were trying a fast one with Tampa and Vinny.
 
Can we collectively just stop responding to teeds made up nonsense? Kind of annoying having to sift through it in every thread again. A collective 'ignore' would solve the problem...

If you don't feed the trolls...
 
Habsy said:
Calling that the LEAFS rule. Apparently they were trying a fast one with Tampa and Vinny.
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There was no rule against it. Not sure how that is "trying a fast one". But the NHL is known for making up/manipulating rules on the go so this is not surprising.
 
Yep.


They're simply closing a loophole they hadnt thought of originally. Instead of waiting for it to happen then being stuck with having to wait till the next CBA to correct it, ala the retirement contracts.
 
Wayward DP said:
Can we collectively just stop responding to teeds made up nonsense? Kind of annoying having to sift through it in every thread again. A collective 'ignore' would solve the problem...

If you don't feed the trolls...
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Unrealistic solution that is much more easily achieved by simply banning him.
 
Montana said:
Yep.


They're simply closing a loophole they hadnt thought of originally. Instead of waiting for it to happen then being stuck with having to wait till the next CBA to correct it, ala the retirement contracts.
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What's the point of a CBA if you can just change the rules on the go without any input from opposing parties?

The NHL does this more than any other sport. Just cover your bases at the beginning when you sign the damn thing. And if you concede that it is impossible to think of every single way around a rule, then the teams involved should be allowed to exploit the rules to their advantage.
 
number17 said:
- Said he won't buyout Komi or anyone until at least after the draft, because buyout makes sense only when it becomes a necessity to other moves he wants to make
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hmm this makes me think the only reason he is waiting til after the draft is because he might bring in a contract via trade that he plans to use a buy out on.
 
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And you can still trade a contract to buy out you just cannot resign that player.

So in theory Vinny can be traded to the leafs and bought out but then he cant resign with the leafs or bolts...but he can still sign with the Rangers to replace Richards.
 
leafman101 said:
Whats the point of a CBA if you can just cheat and exploit it?
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If it's not in the rules that it is disallowed, it's not cheating. Before today in the NHL, teams were allowed to trade players, have them be bought out and re-sign them. Today, this is not allowed.
 
I agree with this decision.

I dont think its right for a team to be able to rid themselves of two terrible contracts and then re-sign those players at significantly lower deals.

And the players certainly could care less as they are getting bought out in the first place.

Not quite sure how they didn't see this when doing the CBA, but probably had something to do with all the immense pressure to get a deal done and 2AM meetings.
 
Cojo said:
I agree with this decision.

I dont think its right for a team to be able to rid themselves of two terrible contracts and then re-sign those players at significantly lower deals.

And the players certainly could care less as they are getting bought out in the first place.

Not quite sure how they didn't see this when doing the CBA, but probably had something to do with all the immense pressure to get a deal done and 2AM meetings.
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The point is they get the player back at a cheaper salary minus whatever they gave up to get them at the lower contract.

Not really breaking the spirit of the rules - it's a trade off.
 
The thing is, though, that teams would have to pay a pretty penny to clubs that could afford to buy out said players to get this done. No team is just going to do this for free and help TB with Vinny. This is why it is not "cheating". The team pays a price with assets to rid themselves of a bad contract. And again, if this was to be banned, it should have been done when the CBA was being drawn up.

In no other league do these rule changes just happen on the fly like the NHL.
 
leaffan2005 said:
If it's not in the rules that it is disallowed, it's not cheating. Before today in the NHL, teams were allowed to trade players, have them be bought out and re-sign them. Today, this is not allowed.
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Well the league has to approve trades and contracts. Kovalchuk's contract wasn't illegal either. Then it was.

Good on the NHL for catching this early.
 
Andrew Ference will be leaving the B's due to cap contraints. I bet Nonis will be after him - he's exactly the sort of experienced, versatile top four defenceman you need. Skates well, plays bigger than his size, and has a history of coming up big in the playoffs.
 
leaffan2005 said:
If it's not in the rules that it is disallowed, it's not cheating. Before today in the NHL, teams were allowed to trade players, have them be bought out and re-sign them. Today, this is not allowed.
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But it wasn't really. The rules said you can't resign a player you buy out. Effectively that is exactly what would happen here.

What is the difference between buying out a player with money, or other assets?

This is a clarification of the rules not a change.
 
Goldust said:
Andrew Ference will be leaving the B's due to cap contraints. I bet Nonis will be after him - he's exactly the sort of experienced, versatile top four defenceman you need. Skates well, plays bigger than his size, and has a history of coming up big in the playoffs.
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He or Scuderi...go with who wants less, but dn't pay either one much
 
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