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If he's top 4 on the Bruins, he's top 4 on the Leafs.

On a man to man basis the Bruins defensive personnel is inferior to the Leafs. They have the advantage of having a physical freak that can play half the game though, allowing them to rotate the pairings.
 
Leafs would be wiser to look at Rosival, well before Ference....

Same experience, bottom pair, better skater, and cheaper

I would absolutely have a lot more interest in Rozsival than Ference. He's significantly more mobile, bigger, and has a commensurate amount of post-season experience.
 
Interesting. Any guesses on what the Lightning were willing to give up in exchange for MLSE eating almost $30M in salary?

I'm more curious as to who would possibly vote no in the insta-poll. Everyone here would gladly pay $30 million for a guaranteed shot at Jonathan Drouin.

Fans on the site actually said no to that possibility? MLSE is made of money.
 
Beauchemin is like a poor man's garbage can, so I shudder to picture Ference playing D for us.

I was wrong to think that you would have felt silly after witnessing Beauchemin finishing fourth in Norris Trophy voting this past season.

Obviously every coach he has ever played for and the hockey media feel he has significant value.
 
I'm more curious as to who would possibly vote no in the insta-poll. Everyone here would gladly pay $30 million for a guaranteed shot at Jonathan Drouin.

Fans on the site actually said no to that possibility? MLSE is made of money.

Regardless, I love it that they're apparently thinking along these lines when it comes to using an amnesty.

I'd have been all over a Vinny and 3rd for Liles plus Vinny buyout deal.
 
I was wrong to think that you would have felt silly after witnessing Beauchemin finishing fourth in Norris Trophy voting this past season.

Obviously every coach he has ever played for and the hockey media feel he has significant value.

One of the most awful Leafs dmen of all time.
 
Regardless, I love it that they're apparently thinking along these lines when it comes to using an amnesty.

I'd have been all over a Vinny and 3rd for Liles plus Vinny buyout deal.

Oh without question.

I'm just rather shocked that anyone could possibly have objected to it. Other than money it doesn't cost the Leafs any meaningful assets and that's one asset they have in perpetuity more than any other team.
 
One of the most awful Leafs dmen of all time.

I raise you:

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In his later years, Gill was better.

Lebda was a good comparable, Jerkface Lumme was also particularly putrid, and honestly Fraser is a bucket of shit too.
 
This nixing of the buyout pisses me off because if Lou Lam did it first, they would nix it after the fact.

The cap circumventing of the previous CBA was done and they didn't like it and changed the rule upon the new CBA. This move punishes the teams that are well off, and actually if they allowed it would help the poor teams.

In fact, the amnesty was created to allow teams to get out of the previous cap circumventing loop holes. It was an out clause. What the hell is wrong with still letting them use the out clause?

If this jipped us out of the third overall pick, I would be pissed and I would love Lieweke to get up in Bettman's ass, and remind him who he works for. Tampa is happy because they get out of the deal, and Toronto is happy because they get their pick for money. Both organizations and owners win.
 
I've been thinking about it and **** getting another top 4 dman. This year isn't the Leafs best chance to win a cup. Keep building the right way and give the young guys an opportunity. Sure they'll make mistakes and maybe cost some games but 2-3 years down the road when the Leafs window actually opens everyone will be better off and the team won't have bad contracts they need to dump.

Gardiner-Phaneuf
Gunnar-Franson
Rielly-Kostka/Liles/Holzer/Blacker/Percy/Finn
 
I've been thinking about it and **** getting another top 4 dman. This year isn't the Leafs best chance to win a cup. Keep building the right way and give the young guys an opportunity. Sure they'll make mistakes and maybe cost some games but 2-3 years down the road when the Leafs window actually opens everyone will be better off and the team won't have bad contracts they need to dump.

Gardiner-Phaneuf
Gunnar-Franson
Rielly-Kostka/Liles/Holzer/Blacker/Percy/Finn

See...if I was playing Reilly...I would want a veteran that did not suck as his partner...particularily one that was sound in his own end.
 
This nixing of the buyout pisses me off because if Lou Lam did it first, they would nix it after the fact.

The cap circumventing of the previous CBA was done and they didn't like it and changed the rule upon the new CBA. This move punishes the teams that are well off, and actually if they allowed it would help the poor teams.

In fact, the amnesty was created to allow teams to get out of the previous cap circumventing loop holes. It was an out clause. What the hell is wrong with still letting them use the out clause?

If this jipped us out of the third overall pick, I would be pissed and I would love Lieweke to get up in Bettman's ass, and remind him who he works for. Tampa is happy because they get out of the deal, and Toronto is happy because they get their pick for money. Both organizations and owners win.

Let's be clear about something. The NHL would approve the deal no problem. The issue is that Vinny wouldn't be able to resign in TB.

And that makes sense. You can't just rewrite a contract. And that's what they'd be doing if they allowed it.

If they want to get really creative, they should make the deal, Leafs buy him out, then he signs a contract with another team, and that team trades him to TB.

I doubt that they could nix that structure, no matter how badly they wanted to.
 
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