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And that makes sense. You can't just rewrite a contract. And that's what they'd be doing if they allowed it.
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The NFL does it all the time... they call it restructuring the contract. I would bet that Bettman would still find a way to nix the deal that you suggest. ( I like it ) but what team would do that?? Maybe this.

Tampa Trades Vinny and the third to Toronto for the rights to Tyler Bozak. Toronto buys out Vinny and trades him to Calgary with the 21st pick for nothing. Calgary trades Vinny and the 21st to Tampa for the rights to Tyler Bozak.

So in all Toronto gets the 3rd overall, Calgary gets the rights to Tyler Bozak, and Tampa gets Vinny back and the 21st overall.
 
Hoss said:
The NFL does it all the time... they call it restructuring the contract. I would bet that Bettman would still find a way to nix the deal that you suggest. ( I like it ) but what team would do that?? Maybe this.

Tampa Trades Vinny and the third to Toronto for the rights to Tyler Bozak. Toronto buys out Vinny and trades him to Calgary with the 21st pick for nothing. Calgary trades Vinny and the 21st to Tampa for the rights to Tyler Bozak.

So in all Toronto gets the 3rd overall, Calgary gets the rights to Tyler Bozak, and Tampa gets Vinny back and the 21st overall.
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huh?...how does Toronto trade Vinny AND buy him out?
 
Hoss said:
The NFL does it all the time... they call it restructuring the contract. I would bet that Bettman would still find a way to nix the deal that you suggest. ( I like it ) but what team would do that?? Maybe this.

Tampa Trades Vinny and the third to Toronto for the rights to Tyler Bozak. Toronto buys out Vinny and trades him to Calgary with the 21st pick for nothing. Calgary trades Vinny and the 21st to Tampa for the rights to Tyler Bozak.

So in all Toronto gets the 3rd overall, Calgary gets the rights to Tyler Bozak, and Tampa gets Vinny back and the 21st overall.
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No, it would need to be something like

Vinny and 3rd for Liles
Leafs buy out Vinny
Random team signs Vinny to deal that TB likes
Random team trades Vinny to TB for a 2nd rounder
 
LeafOfFaith said:
Let's be clear about something. The NHL would approve the deal no problem. The issue is that Vinny wouldn't be able to resign in TB.

And that makes sense. You can't just rewrite a contract. And that's what they'd be doing if they allowed it.

If they want to get really creative, they should make the deal, Leafs buy him out, then he signs a contract with another team, and that team trades him to TB.

I doubt that they could nix that structure, no matter how badly they wanted to.
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There is still value to them in ridding themselves of the Vinny's deal, it just means that they'd have to sign a different 2nd line center.

For the Leafs part of the deal, MLSE can still offer to use an amnesty buy-out in exchange for a high pick.
 
BG said:
There is still value to them in ridding themselves of the Vinny's deal, it just means that they'd have to sign a different 2nd line center.

For the Leafs part of the deal, MLSE can still offer to use an amnesty buy-out in exchange for a high pick.
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the premise was Vinny would only waive his NTC is if he somehow ended up in Tampa again.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
No, it would need to be something like

Vinny and 3rd for Liles
Leafs buy out Vinny
Random team signs Vinny to deal that TB likes
Random team trades Vinny to TB for a 2nd rounder
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Pretty sure whoever buys out a player can't get him back by any means before a year is up. not just they can't sign them themselves.
 
LeafOfFaith said:
One of the most awful Leafs dmen of all time.
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I can't believe I'm about to defend Beauchimen but here goes.... even though he was stinkworthy for us during his time here, I think Ron Wilson's uptempo run n/gun forget defense made Beauchimen a lot worse. I think if he was here under Carlyle I think he would be a lot more effective then he was under Rotten Ronnie era.
 
MindzEye said:
Meh, the collapse was fatigue related more than anything else. Dion-Gunner basically had a 3 minute shift at the end of the game. Yeah, they're green, but you don't get not green by not playing.
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I think more of the collapse had to do with all around team immaturity vs a team that has tons of maturity and experience come playoff time. The leafs had a 4-1 lead with under 10 mins to go and thought they had it in the bag, pretty much everyone stopped trying (nobody gets a pass), and thats when Boston turned on the jets and lit us up for 3 quick goals late in the 3rd, we went from being an incredibly cocky team to a fragile one by the end of the 3rd, we had no confidence or momentum going into OT espically Game 7 in Boston's barn. I give Phaneuf and Gunnar a bit of a pass though because like u said they had played a 3 min shift and were out of gas, actually I fault Carlyle for playing them that long and not calling a timeout when it was 4-2.
 
Pronger84 said:
I think more of the collapse had to do with all around team immaturity vs a team that has tons of maturity and experience come playoff time. The leafs had a 4-1 lead with under 10 mins to go and thought they had it in the bag, pretty much everyone stopped trying (nobody gets a pass), and thats when Boston turned on the jets and lit us up for 3 quick goals late in the 3rd, we went from being an incredibly cocky team to a fragile one by the end of the 3rd, we had no confidence or momentum going into OT espically Game 7 in Boston's barn. I give Phaneuf and Gunnar a bit of a pass though because like u said they had played a 3 min shift and were out of gas, actually I fault Carlyle for playing them that long and not calling a timeout when it was 4-2.
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I don't care how mature you are, a 3 minute long shift is going to gas you out. Yes, we had a 4-1 lead until the Horton goal half way through the period, but "the collapse" was all in the final 90 seconds, when our D pair had already been out there for a long 1:30 shift.
 
UWHabs said:
Pretty sure whoever buys out a player can't get him back by any means before a year is up. not just they can't sign them themselves.
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The rule is supposedly that they can't re-sign him. I don't believe there's anything said about trading for him.

Granted, I saw that Daly said they're going to try to stop all attempts to circumvent, so I don't see this happening.
 
Only way seams to be: trade him to us, we buy him out. Then play on a 1 year contract with a contender and sign back after next season with TB. We could even play him for a year and then buy him out and he can go back to TB.
 
This guy got any cred?

“@RobRossi_Trib: #TribHKY *An update on the #LetangWatch will post on site around midnight. #pens #leafs
 
Is he just trying to drive more traffic to his site by throwing the Leafs into that tweet? I have a very hard time believing the Leafs and Pens would be having discussions about Letang.
 
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