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Leafs acquire Frederik Anderson from Ducks

MindzEye said:
I go out for the day and all hell breaks loose...typical.

Don't love the trade, but I don't hate it either.

To break down the trade 1st, he's not a proven starter, but we didn't pay "proven starter" rate. We paid in the same range that SJ paid to get Martin Jones, and Freddy has a better track record than Jones did before the trade. What this kind of indicates to me is that there aren't a bunch of kids Hunter is horny about at that range in the draft. If Hunter had rod for a number of kids likely to be available in that range, we likely don't make this trade. Maybe that's reading the tea leaves a little too hard. What this isn't though, is a Toskala or Raycroft move. Raycroft was one of the worst goalies in the league the year before we traded him, a lot of people forget that. The huge rookie season he had, was 2 years prior to our flipping Rask for him. Freddy isn't the guy I would have targeted, but he's at worst a league average goaltender. Toskala was a midget who had put up seasons of .908 & .901 just prior to the Toronto trade, again a way below average goalie that we paid a huge price for. This isn't that.

The contract at first glance bothers me as well, but more for term than for cap hit. 5 years is a long ****ing time to bank on a guy who has never been a legit plus starter. The 5M doesn't bother me at all, that's just where the goaltending market is right now, wait for Reimer to sign for 4.5 in free agency. The majority of the contract is UFA years, which is really the only positive I can think of.

So yeah, don't hate it because I see the HD SV% stuff, I see how mediocre a possession club Anaheim has been during his time with them (Mo shats can have a small negative affect on raw sv%), I see how Anaheim is 6th worst in the league time spent on the PK (which has a negative effect on raw SW...more PK shots faced, lower raw SV%) during Freddy's time with them. In general, I trust Dubas and our pro scouting department to have tools of sophistication we simply don't have access to, and I trust Shanny to ensure that those tools are being used in pro scouting evaluations like this.

Don't love it, because this isn't the guy I would have targeted knowing what I know with the tools I have at my disposal, I wouldn't have handed him a 5 year deal...and that imo is the worst part about this entire move, it contains the vast majority of the downside. For a guy without a track record as a #1, that sure has the potential to be something of an anchor.
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Yeah, I'll take it.

Freddy has shown a starter's durability and has taken the step to be a legitimately solid #1 (I'll upgrade my opinion of him to being a top 10 starter, a bit above average). The contract looks good now as well.

The one question mark left is whether Sam Steel turns into a player or not.
 
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He still has something to prove to justify that contract. He looks to have corrected his inconsistency issue. Now we get to see him in his second playoff chance. Not bad but not great last year.
 
zeke said:
did I hate it as much as everyone says I did?
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Yes



zeke said:
2 high picks for a western conference platoon goalie, AGAIN.

in his only season as a fulltime starter, posted a .914sv%.

27yrs old and due a healthy contract.

I miss Reimer.
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Can't blame you for thinking this is another toskala situation.

Team Reimer though....I never got the love. He never gave me the confidence he can be Rock like Fredy is right now.
 
worm said:
seems like you could have got a better goalie for that price
or a similar goalie for cheaper

but time will tell

the fact zeke thinks it is not good probably means vezina time
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Worm >

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I remember being scared more than anything. The picks didn't bother me. The contract did. I was thinking we have a just cost us a chance at a cup.
 
BeLeafer said:
He still has something to prove to justify that contract. He looks to have corrected his inconsistency issue. Now we get to see him in his second playoff chance. Not bad but not great last year.
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He needs to justify 5 million per? He has done that already. We're paying him a cap hit less than 50% what Price's is. He's also in his prime and will not be old when the deal expires.
 
The Leafs played it right. Get that 1A or B goalie relatively cheap in a trade and get them locked up in a sweet deal.
I know they had done it before in terms of trying that, but Freddy was very big and athletic and not the midgets they had been trying in net. Freddy was also litterally the hottest NHL goalie in the second half when they acquired him. His stats jan-April 2016 were fantastic. Leafs' brass believed it was the start of something. They were right.
 
worm said:
with 8m in unused cap space it isnt a contract issue

but yes a real GM should have traded him for a young 1C if possible
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But really, do the two arguments go together? It's still dumb to build around a goalie for that amount of cap room.
The cap room exists because he did not meet the price for Radulov and Markov.
 
The term is brutal there. How many goalies are worth $10 mill a year from 35-40?

Thomas, Luongo and Roy are the only goalies in NHL history to post a .920+ over multiple 35+ seasons. Price is that kind of talent, so he could hold up, but Hasek, Lunqvist, Brodeur, Belfour were those types of talent too.
 
Price has literally been one of the worst goalies in the league this year, in year ONE of that contract.

ouch.
 
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