Leafs' Prospect/Marlies Discussion Thread!
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zeke
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Voit didn't make it. that sucks.
C Shaw 32
W Blandisi 30
W Clifford 33
C Pare 25
W Nylander 26
W Steeves 25
C Minten 20 (injured)
W Grebenkin 21
W Tverberg 22
C Quillan 22
W Hirvonen 23
W Abruzzese 25
C Solow 26
W Barbolini 24
W Stevens 24
C Kressler 23
W Mastrosimone 21
D Mermis 30 (injured)
D Myers 37 (nhl for now)
D Rifai 26
D Mattinen 26
D Niemela 22
D Webber 23
D Kokkonen 22
D Villeneuve 22
D Petroniro 26
D MIller 26
D Anderson 25
D Bengstonn 26
G Hildeby 23 (nhl for now)
G Murray 30
G Aktyamov 23
G Peksa 22
C Shaw 32
W Blandisi 30
W Clifford 33
C Pare 25
W Nylander 26
W Steeves 25
C Minten 20 (injured)
W Grebenkin 21
W Tverberg 22
C Quillan 22
W Hirvonen 23
W Abruzzese 25
C Solow 26
W Barbolini 24
W Stevens 24
C Kressler 23
W Mastrosimone 21
D Mermis 30 (injured)
D Myers 37 (nhl for now)
D Rifai 26
D Mattinen 26
D Niemela 22
D Webber 23
D Kokkonen 22
D Villeneuve 22
D Petroniro 26
D MIller 26
D Anderson 25
D Bengstonn 26
G Hildeby 23 (nhl for now)
G Murray 30
G Aktyamov 23
G Peksa 22
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Big year for the Marlies, we're on the cusp of seeing a bunch of those guys on the NHL team in the next 12 months as injury fill
Steeves-Nylander-Grebby-Hirvonen up front is probably the depth chart at the moment
Rifai-Niemela-Villeneuve-Kokkonen on the blueline
Hopefully Grebby pushes his way to the front of the F depth chart and Niemela/Villeneuve do the same at the back
Steeves-Nylander-Grebby-Hirvonen up front is probably the depth chart at the moment
Rifai-Niemela-Villeneuve-Kokkonen on the blueline
Hopefully Grebby pushes his way to the front of the F depth chart and Niemela/Villeneuve do the same at the back
axlsalinger
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I wouldn't write off Voit just yet, didn't play much at all last year so maybe just more ice-time available on the E to see if he can get his game back on track.
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zeke
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leafman101
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LeafGm
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Woll isn’t waiver-exempt anymore, so the only way he’s putting on a Marlie jersey again is if it’s for a few games on a conditioning stint.
MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Lots of opportunity for that when he finds a way to get hurt brushing his teeth in the morning.
He's everything the Robbie naysayers claimed Robbie was.
LeafGm
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No argument. Love him when he’s healthy, but he’s been consistently injury-prone his entire professional career, even throughout his entire time in the AHL.
Just pointing out that whenever he does happen to be healthy, sending him back to the AHL full-time won’t be an option. It’s either keep him as one of your two NHL guys or lose him on waivers.
Regardless, we’re a helluva long way from the days where Erik Kallgren was the only healthy goalie in the organization signed to an NHL contract when our presumptive starter went down (funny enough, partially because Woll was injured then too), and we had to panic-sign Keith Pepperoni to back him up.
Now we’ve got two legit prospects each with multiple years of pro experience, a 1B in Stolarz who very well might be better than our 1A, plus a healthy Matt Murray lurking in the weeds. Pretty nice depth.
zeke
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I've decided to ignore all the 22+yr old guys in the ncaa and europe.
AHL
C Shaw (32): 2gms, 0gls, 5pts (0gl/205pt pace)
W Hirvonen (22): 2gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gl/123pt pace)
W Nylander (26): 2gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gl/123pt pace)
C Quillan (22): 2gms, 1gls, 2pts (41gl/82pt pace)
W Solow (26): 2gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/82pt pace)
W Steeves (25):2gms, 1gls, 1pts (41gl/41pt pace)
C Pare (25): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Abruzzese (25):2gms, 1gls, 1pts (41gl/41pt pace)
W Tverberg (22):2gms, 0gls, 1pts (0gl/41pt pace)
C Minten (20): 0gms
W Grebenkin (21): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Blandisi (30): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
C Barbolini (24): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Mastrosimone (23):1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Clifford (33):
D Niemela (22): 2gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/82pt pace)
D Rifai (26): 2gms, 1gls, 1pts (41gl/41pt pace)
D Kokkonen (23): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Mattinen (26): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Villeneuve (22): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Webber (23): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Pietroniro (26): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Miller (25):1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Mermis (30): 0gms
D Myers (27): 0gms
G Hildeby (23): 0gms
G Akhtyamov (23): 1gms, .974sv%
G Murray (30):1gms, .857sv%
G Peksa (22):
CHL
C Holinka (19): 5gms, 2gls, 4pts (33gl/67pt pace)
W Cowan (19): 3gms, 2gls, 4pts (55gl/109pt pace)
W McCue (19): 6gms, 2gls, 6pts (27gl/82pt pace)
W Lisowsky (20): 2gms, 0gls, 1pts (0gl/41pt pace)
LD Mayes (18): 8gms, 1gls, 5pts (10gl/52pt pace)
RD Bamford (18): 5gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/33pt pace)
LD Chadwick (19): 5gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/33pt pace)
RUSSIA
W Plesovskikh (18): MHL 13gms, 3gls, 10pts (19gl/63pt pace)
G Obvinstev (19): MHL: 6gms, .913
SWEDEN
LD Johansson (18): JR: 14gms, 1gls, 13pts (6gl/76pt pace)
NCAA
C Malinoski (20): 1gms, 1gls, 1pts (82gl/82pt pace)
W Moldenhauer (20): 4gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/41pt pace)
USHL
LD Lahey (18): 7gms, 1gls, 3pts (12gl/35pt pace)
AHL
C Shaw (32): 2gms, 0gls, 5pts (0gl/205pt pace)
W Hirvonen (22): 2gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gl/123pt pace)
W Nylander (26): 2gms, 2gls, 3pts (82gl/123pt pace)
C Quillan (22): 2gms, 1gls, 2pts (41gl/82pt pace)
W Solow (26): 2gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/82pt pace)
W Steeves (25):2gms, 1gls, 1pts (41gl/41pt pace)
C Pare (25): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Abruzzese (25):2gms, 1gls, 1pts (41gl/41pt pace)
W Tverberg (22):2gms, 0gls, 1pts (0gl/41pt pace)
C Minten (20): 0gms
W Grebenkin (21): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Blandisi (30): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
C Barbolini (24): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Mastrosimone (23):1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
W Clifford (33):
D Niemela (22): 2gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/82pt pace)
D Rifai (26): 2gms, 1gls, 1pts (41gl/41pt pace)
D Kokkonen (23): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Mattinen (26): 2gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Villeneuve (22): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Webber (23): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Pietroniro (26): 1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Miller (25):1gms, 0gls, 0pts (0gl/0pt pace)
D Mermis (30): 0gms
D Myers (27): 0gms
G Hildeby (23): 0gms
G Akhtyamov (23): 1gms, .974sv%
G Murray (30):1gms, .857sv%
G Peksa (22):
CHL
C Holinka (19): 5gms, 2gls, 4pts (33gl/67pt pace)
W Cowan (19): 3gms, 2gls, 4pts (55gl/109pt pace)
W McCue (19): 6gms, 2gls, 6pts (27gl/82pt pace)
W Lisowsky (20): 2gms, 0gls, 1pts (0gl/41pt pace)
LD Mayes (18): 8gms, 1gls, 5pts (10gl/52pt pace)
RD Bamford (18): 5gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/33pt pace)
LD Chadwick (19): 5gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/33pt pace)
RUSSIA
W Plesovskikh (18): MHL 13gms, 3gls, 10pts (19gl/63pt pace)
G Obvinstev (19): MHL: 6gms, .913
SWEDEN
LD Johansson (18): JR: 14gms, 1gls, 13pts (6gl/76pt pace)
NCAA
C Malinoski (20): 1gms, 1gls, 1pts (82gl/82pt pace)
W Moldenhauer (20): 4gms, 0gls, 2pts (0gl/41pt pace)
USHL
LD Lahey (18): 7gms, 1gls, 3pts (12gl/35pt pace)
zeke
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MindzEye
Wayward Ditch Pig
Should....should have higher offensive upside by a fair bit. I've got him as a non psychopath peak Kadri type at the moment. Steen was a good player, but his offensive production wasn't great in Sweden before he got here.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
Steens d-1 production was really good. His d+1 production isn’t worth looking at because it was the lockout year and he ended up on a team with forsberg, the sedins and naslund.
leafman101
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Think his upside is a Konecny, Hagel type. He has enough skill that he can score goals and play the PP, but he is also greasy and PKs. Perfect complementary piece for us.
Don’t think he has Kadri skill. But young Kadri didn’t have his consistent motor or desire to play D.
Don’t think he has Kadri skill. But young Kadri didn’t have his consistent motor or desire to play D.
zeke
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Skill can be hard to isolate but 18yr old Cowan was way ahead of Kadri's 18yr old production (while 5 months older) and matched Kadri's 19yr old production (while 7 months younger).
Marner 18.5: 75gms, 55gls, 160pts (60gl/175pt pace)
Robertson 18.0: 46gms, 55gls, 86pts (98gl/153pt pace)
Spezza 18.5: 64gms, 47gls, 116pts (60gl/149pt pace)
Cowan 18.5: 72gms, 44gls, 130pts (50gl/148pt pace)
Tavares 18.0: 70gms, 68gls, 125pts (80gl/146pt pace)
Wellwood 19.5: 64gms, 46gls, 114pts (59gl/146pt pace)
Brown 19.5: 82gms, 53gls, 146pts (53gl/146pt pace) --> played with McDavid
Kadri 19.0: 68gms, 44gls, 120pts (53gl/145pt pace)
Brooks 20.5: 83gms, 48gls, 148pts (47gls/146pt pace) <-- overage
Boyes 19.5: 68gms, 58gls, 118pts (70gl/142pt pace)
Brooks 19.5: 84gms, 45gls, 143pts (44gl/140pt pace) <-- now there's an outlier. Both him and linemate Steel have been busts.
Konecny 18.5: 62gms, 31gls, 104pts (41gl/138pt pace)
Domi 19.5: 66gms, 37gls, 111pts (46gl/138pt pace)
Stajan 19.0: 64gms, 39gls, 107pts (50gl/137pt pace)
Didomenico 20.5: 26gms, 14gls, 43pts (44gl/136pt pace) <-- overage + Q bullshit + sample size
Hagel 20.0: 70gms,. 45gls, 108pts (53gl/127pt pace)
Boyes 18.5: 74gms, 55gls, 113pts (61gl/125pt pace)
Corbeil 18.5: 62gms, 41gls, 93pts (54gl/123pt pace) <--- Q bullshit
Corbeil 19.5: 80gms, 40gls, 119pts (41gl/122pt pace) <--- Q bullshit
Domi 18.5: 70gms, 38gls, 103pts (45gl/121pt pace)
Voit 19.5: 83gms, 27gls, 121pts (27gl/120pt pace) <--- not enough goals maybe?
Timashov 19.0: 78gms, 35gls, 113pts (37gl/119pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Williams 19.5: 73gms, 54gls, 104pts (61gl/117pt pace)
Didomenico 19.5: 66gms, 23gls, 94pts (29gl/117pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Kadri 18.0: 70gms, 34gls, 99pts (40gl/116pt pace)
Wellwood 18.5: 70gms, 42gls, 99pts (49gl/116pt pace)
Bertuzzi 19.5: 77gms, 49gls, 106pts (52gl/113pt pace)
Bracco 19.5: 64gms, 27gls, 88gls (35gl/113pt pace)
SDA 19.0: 55gms, 12gls, 75pts (18gl/112pt pace) <-- no goals
Didomenico 18.5: 84gms, 47gls, 114pts (46gl/111pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Bracco 18.5: 58gms, 24gls, 78pts (34gl/110pt pace)
Delisle 19.5: 80gms, 61gls, 107pts (63gl/110pt pace)
McKegg 18.5: 73gms, 53gls, 97pts (60gl/109pt pace)
D'Amigo 19.5: 28gms, 18gls, 37pts (53gl/108pt pace)
Stefanovich 20.0: 61gms, 28gls, 80pts (38gl/108pt pace) <--- overage + Q bullshit
J.Mitchell 18.5: 74gms, 34gls, 94pts (38gl/104pt pace)
Stefanovich 19.0: 73gms, 60gls, 92pts (67gl/103pt pace) <--- Q bullshit
Williams 18.5: 76gms, 42gls, 94pts (45gl/101pt pace)
Abramov 19.5: 44gms, 17gls, 54pts (32gl/101pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Timashov 18.0: 88gms, 22gls, 108pts (21gl/101pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Delisle 20.5: 65gms, 35gls, 79pts (44gl/100pt pace) <--- overage
Stajan 18.0: 79gms, 36gls, 96ps (37gl/100pt pace)
Verhaeghe 19.5: 79gms, 39gls, 96pts (41gl/100pt pace)
Verhaeghe 18.5: 71gms, 30gls, 86pts (35gl/99pt pace)
Abramov 18.5: 63gms, 35gls, 76pts (46gl/99pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Delisle 18.5: 81gms, 42gls, 97pts (43gl/98pt pace)
Voit 18.5: 73gms, 28gls, 86pts (32gl/97pt pace)
Nicholls 19.5: 60gms, 32gls, 71pts (44gl/97pt pace)
D.Mitchell 20.5: 51gms, 23gls, 60pts (37gl/97pt pace) <--- overage
Champagne 20.5: 86gms, 35gls, 102pts (33gl/97pt pace) <--- overage + Q bullshit
Leivo 19.5: 73gms, 32gls, 85pts (36gl/96pt pace)
Lisowsky 19.5: 84gms, 49gls, 97pts (48gl/95pt pace)
Ross 19.5: 90gms, 54gls, 104pts (49gl/95pt pace)
J.Mitchell 19.5: 67gms, 26gls, 77pts (32gl/94pt pace)
Nicholls 18.5: 81gms, 38gls, 93pts (38gl/94pt pace)
D.Mitchell 19.5: 86gms, 47gls, 97pts (45gl/93pt pace)
Champagne 19.5: 81gms, 45gls, 92pts (46gl/93pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Champagne: 18.5: 55gms, 24gls, 62pts (36gl/92pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Hagel 18.0: 72gms, 38gls, 79pts (43gl/90pt pace)
Bertuzzi 18.5: 47gms, 19gls, 51pts (33gl/90pt pace)
Brown 18.5: 63gms, 28gls, 69pts (36gl/90pt pace)
Leivo 18.5: 70gms, 34gls, 76pts (40gl/89pt pace)
McKegg 19.5: 80gms, 35gls, 86pts (36gl/88pt pace)
Minten 18.5: 67gms, 33gls, 71pts (40gl/87pt pace)
Hagel 19.0: 61gms, 23gls, 65pts (31gl/87pt pace)
Minten 19.5: 59gms, 30gls, 62pts (42gl/86pt pace)
Tlusty 18.5: 50gms, 22gls, 51pts (36gl/84pt pace)
Lisowsky 18.5: 83gms, 41gls, 84pts (41gl/83pt pace)
Stefanovich 18.0: 73gms, 36gls, 74pts (40gl/83pt pace)
D.Mitchell 18.5: 78gms, 34gls, 76pts (36gl/80pt pace)
Brooks 18.5: 73gms, 34gls, 69pts (38gls/78pt pace)
Ross 18.5: 83gms, 35gls, 75pts (35gl/74pt pace)
SDA 18.0: 67gms, 6gls, 49pts (7gl/60pt pace)
I don't know that there's any need to put a hard ceiling on Cowan at all, especially since he's more than fine in the size/speed/grit/leaderbeans categories.
Hagel and Verhaeghe obviously surprised from where they were in junior. Bertuzzi to a lesser extent.
and hey i hope we don't give up on Voit. though the lack of goals might have been a warning sign. and of course he doesn't seem to have any other assets other than pure offense.
buncha guys in there that we probably should have done better developing - Wiliiams, Brooks, D'Amigo, McKegg, Ross, Bracco, Leivo, JMitchell, Nicholls - all showed enough that i think a better franchise could have got a player or two out of that group. Verhaeghe was right in that group at the time and we almost killed his career too.
Marner 18.5: 75gms, 55gls, 160pts (60gl/175pt pace)
Robertson 18.0: 46gms, 55gls, 86pts (98gl/153pt pace)
Spezza 18.5: 64gms, 47gls, 116pts (60gl/149pt pace)
Cowan 18.5: 72gms, 44gls, 130pts (50gl/148pt pace)
Tavares 18.0: 70gms, 68gls, 125pts (80gl/146pt pace)
Wellwood 19.5: 64gms, 46gls, 114pts (59gl/146pt pace)
Brown 19.5: 82gms, 53gls, 146pts (53gl/146pt pace) --> played with McDavid
Kadri 19.0: 68gms, 44gls, 120pts (53gl/145pt pace)
Brooks 20.5: 83gms, 48gls, 148pts (47gls/146pt pace) <-- overage
Boyes 19.5: 68gms, 58gls, 118pts (70gl/142pt pace)
Brooks 19.5: 84gms, 45gls, 143pts (44gl/140pt pace) <-- now there's an outlier. Both him and linemate Steel have been busts.
Konecny 18.5: 62gms, 31gls, 104pts (41gl/138pt pace)
Domi 19.5: 66gms, 37gls, 111pts (46gl/138pt pace)
Stajan 19.0: 64gms, 39gls, 107pts (50gl/137pt pace)
Didomenico 20.5: 26gms, 14gls, 43pts (44gl/136pt pace) <-- overage + Q bullshit + sample size
Hagel 20.0: 70gms,. 45gls, 108pts (53gl/127pt pace)
Boyes 18.5: 74gms, 55gls, 113pts (61gl/125pt pace)
Corbeil 18.5: 62gms, 41gls, 93pts (54gl/123pt pace) <--- Q bullshit
Corbeil 19.5: 80gms, 40gls, 119pts (41gl/122pt pace) <--- Q bullshit
Domi 18.5: 70gms, 38gls, 103pts (45gl/121pt pace)
Voit 19.5: 83gms, 27gls, 121pts (27gl/120pt pace) <--- not enough goals maybe?
Timashov 19.0: 78gms, 35gls, 113pts (37gl/119pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Williams 19.5: 73gms, 54gls, 104pts (61gl/117pt pace)
Didomenico 19.5: 66gms, 23gls, 94pts (29gl/117pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Kadri 18.0: 70gms, 34gls, 99pts (40gl/116pt pace)
Wellwood 18.5: 70gms, 42gls, 99pts (49gl/116pt pace)
Bertuzzi 19.5: 77gms, 49gls, 106pts (52gl/113pt pace)
Bracco 19.5: 64gms, 27gls, 88gls (35gl/113pt pace)
SDA 19.0: 55gms, 12gls, 75pts (18gl/112pt pace) <-- no goals
Didomenico 18.5: 84gms, 47gls, 114pts (46gl/111pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Bracco 18.5: 58gms, 24gls, 78pts (34gl/110pt pace)
Delisle 19.5: 80gms, 61gls, 107pts (63gl/110pt pace)
McKegg 18.5: 73gms, 53gls, 97pts (60gl/109pt pace)
D'Amigo 19.5: 28gms, 18gls, 37pts (53gl/108pt pace)
Stefanovich 20.0: 61gms, 28gls, 80pts (38gl/108pt pace) <--- overage + Q bullshit
J.Mitchell 18.5: 74gms, 34gls, 94pts (38gl/104pt pace)
Stefanovich 19.0: 73gms, 60gls, 92pts (67gl/103pt pace) <--- Q bullshit
Williams 18.5: 76gms, 42gls, 94pts (45gl/101pt pace)
Abramov 19.5: 44gms, 17gls, 54pts (32gl/101pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Timashov 18.0: 88gms, 22gls, 108pts (21gl/101pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Delisle 20.5: 65gms, 35gls, 79pts (44gl/100pt pace) <--- overage
Stajan 18.0: 79gms, 36gls, 96ps (37gl/100pt pace)
Verhaeghe 19.5: 79gms, 39gls, 96pts (41gl/100pt pace)
Verhaeghe 18.5: 71gms, 30gls, 86pts (35gl/99pt pace)
Abramov 18.5: 63gms, 35gls, 76pts (46gl/99pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Delisle 18.5: 81gms, 42gls, 97pts (43gl/98pt pace)
Voit 18.5: 73gms, 28gls, 86pts (32gl/97pt pace)
Nicholls 19.5: 60gms, 32gls, 71pts (44gl/97pt pace)
D.Mitchell 20.5: 51gms, 23gls, 60pts (37gl/97pt pace) <--- overage
Champagne 20.5: 86gms, 35gls, 102pts (33gl/97pt pace) <--- overage + Q bullshit
Leivo 19.5: 73gms, 32gls, 85pts (36gl/96pt pace)
Lisowsky 19.5: 84gms, 49gls, 97pts (48gl/95pt pace)
Ross 19.5: 90gms, 54gls, 104pts (49gl/95pt pace)
J.Mitchell 19.5: 67gms, 26gls, 77pts (32gl/94pt pace)
Nicholls 18.5: 81gms, 38gls, 93pts (38gl/94pt pace)
D.Mitchell 19.5: 86gms, 47gls, 97pts (45gl/93pt pace)
Champagne 19.5: 81gms, 45gls, 92pts (46gl/93pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Champagne: 18.5: 55gms, 24gls, 62pts (36gl/92pt pace) <-- Q bullshit
Hagel 18.0: 72gms, 38gls, 79pts (43gl/90pt pace)
Bertuzzi 18.5: 47gms, 19gls, 51pts (33gl/90pt pace)
Brown 18.5: 63gms, 28gls, 69pts (36gl/90pt pace)
Leivo 18.5: 70gms, 34gls, 76pts (40gl/89pt pace)
McKegg 19.5: 80gms, 35gls, 86pts (36gl/88pt pace)
Minten 18.5: 67gms, 33gls, 71pts (40gl/87pt pace)
Hagel 19.0: 61gms, 23gls, 65pts (31gl/87pt pace)
Minten 19.5: 59gms, 30gls, 62pts (42gl/86pt pace)
Tlusty 18.5: 50gms, 22gls, 51pts (36gl/84pt pace)
Lisowsky 18.5: 83gms, 41gls, 84pts (41gl/83pt pace)
Stefanovich 18.0: 73gms, 36gls, 74pts (40gl/83pt pace)
D.Mitchell 18.5: 78gms, 34gls, 76pts (36gl/80pt pace)
Brooks 18.5: 73gms, 34gls, 69pts (38gls/78pt pace)
Ross 18.5: 83gms, 35gls, 75pts (35gl/74pt pace)
SDA 18.0: 67gms, 6gls, 49pts (7gl/60pt pace)
I don't know that there's any need to put a hard ceiling on Cowan at all, especially since he's more than fine in the size/speed/grit/leaderbeans categories.
Hagel and Verhaeghe obviously surprised from where they were in junior. Bertuzzi to a lesser extent.
and hey i hope we don't give up on Voit. though the lack of goals might have been a warning sign. and of course he doesn't seem to have any other assets other than pure offense.
buncha guys in there that we probably should have done better developing - Wiliiams, Brooks, D'Amigo, McKegg, Ross, Bracco, Leivo, JMitchell, Nicholls - all showed enough that i think a better franchise could have got a player or two out of that group. Verhaeghe was right in that group at the time and we almost killed his career too.
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Wayward DP
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man, Marlies look pretty bleak in terms of potential future NHLers.
I'm hoping Hirvonen shows something this season. He could still turn into something, was hurt most of last year if I recall correctly.
Him and Grebenkin are really the only two AHL forwards I think I care about.
The D is more encouraging though.
zeke
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I don't know if i care about Hirvonen unless he takes a huge jump this year.
Guys I actually care about right now:
F: Minten 20, Grebenkin 21, Tverberg 22
D: Niemela 22, Kokkonen 23, Villeneuve 22 (maybe Webber 23 but i have to see him first)
G: Hildeby 23, Akhtyamov 22
Wayward DP
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I forgot about Minten cause he's injured, so add him to my list. Tverberg I hold out some remote hope for, but not much.
On D, I'm interested in Niemela and Villeneuve. but see both topping out in the bottom-4, if they can even crack the second pair.