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Lineup your Lineups

LeafGm

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Since I'm willing to bet that there's probably been an uptick in mock lineups getting made by people around here since Saturday night, I figured we may as well have a thread for them. It's also an excuse to sketch out how our lineup would look cap-wise, and it's actually looking pretty workable.

Assuming a Stamkos signing for a cap hit on the high-end of things, and us not getting rid of any of the veteran detritus left on our cap, here's how it'd look:

James van Riemsdyk ($4.25) - Steven Stamkos ($11M) - Mitch Marner ($0.925M)
Nikita Soshnikov ($0.736M) - Auston Matthews ($0.925) - William Nylander ($0.894M)
Leo Komarov ($2.95M) - Nazem Kadri ($4.5M) - Zach Hyman ($0.900M)
Milan Michalek ($4.00M) - Brooks Laich ($4.5M) - Connor Brown ($0.686M)
Josh Leivo (RFA)

Morgan Rielly ($5.00M) - Matt Hunwick ($1.2M)
Jake Gardiner ($4.05M) - Nikita Zaitsev ($0.925M)
Martin Marincin (RFA) - Connor Carrick (RFA)
Frank Corrado (RFA)

Jonathan Bernier (4.15M)
Garret Sparks (RFA)

Robidas Island:

Stephane Robidas ($3.00M)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.25M)

Traded/not qualified:

Tyler Bozak ($4.20M)
Peter Holland (RFA)
Jared Cowen ($3.10M) - Or if someone doesn't trade for him, buy him out and take his $650K cap credit

Buried:

Colin Greening ($1.7M)
Byron Froese (N/A)

LTIR:

Nathan Horton ($5.3M)

Buyout:

Tim Gleason ($1.33M)

Retained Salary:

Phil Kessel ($1.20M)

Total Cap hit: $64.07M
Available Cap Space ($74M cap): $9.93M

So, we'd have about 10 million dollars to pay our 13th forward, three defensemen and a goalie. And of course, we've already got a lot of cheap forward depth & defensive depth in the organization, so that'd be enough money to bring in a defenseman making some decent coin, which would be a lot nicer than playing Hunwick on the top pair again, or depending on rookies like Carrick or Zaitsev to fill that slot.

You'd also have the option of holding some cap space in reserve to cover for potential bonuses for the likes of Marner, Matthews & Nylander. But since is $18.3M is coming off the books after next year for Laich, Michalek, Greening, Robidas & Bernier, if some bonuses roll over into 2017/18, it shouldn't be a huge deal.

Spending some more on our goaltending if the right option comes up is another opportunity.
 
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Komarov - Matthews - Stamkos
VanRyk - Nylander - Brown
Michalek - Kadri - Marner
Hyman - Laich - Soshnikov
(Holland - Leivo)

Gardiner - Rielly
Marincin - Zaitsev
Hunwick - Carrick
(Corrado)

Reimer
Bernier

Traded: Bozak
 
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zeke said:
Komarov - Matthews - Stamkos
VanRyk - Nylander - Brown
Michalek - Kadri - Marner
Hyman - Laich - Soshnikov
(Holland - Leivo)

Gardiner - Rielly
Marincin - Zaitsev
Hunwick - Carrick
(Corrado)

Reimer
Bernier

Traded: Bozak
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:facepalm
 
CapFriendly.com Armchair-GM User-Generated Roster

FORWARDS (14)
L. Komarov ($2,950,000) - S. Stamkos ($9,100,000) - M. Marner ($925,000)
J. Van Riemsdyk ($4,250,000) - A. Matthews ($3,750,000) - W. Nylander ($894,167)
N. Soshnikov ($736,667) - N. Kadri ($4,500,000) - C. Brown ($686,667)
M. Michalek ($4,000,000) - B. Laich ($4,500,000) - Z. Hyman ($900,000)
J. Lupul ($5,250,000) - C. Greening ($2,650,000)

DEFENSE (8)
M. Rielly ($5,000,000) - N. Zaitsev ($850,000)
J. Gardiner ($4,050,000) - C. Carrick ($850,000)
M. Hunwick ($1,200,000) - M. Marincin ($2,750,000)
V. Loov ($692,500) - F. Corrado ($900,000)

GOALTENDER (1)
UFA/TRADE
J. Bernier ($4,150,000)


BUYOUTS
J. Cowen ($-650,000) - T. Gleason ($1,333,333) - M. Grabovski ($0)

Retained Salary Transactions
Phil Kessel: $1,200,000 (%15)

LTIR
Nathan Horton was placed on LTIR for an assumed full cap relief of $5,300,000
Stephane Robidas was placed on LTIR for an assumed full cap relief of $3,000,000

Trade
Tyler Bozak

DETAILS
Roster Size: 23
NHL Salary Cap: $74,000,000
Cap Hit: $67,418,334
Cap Space: $6,581,666
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Lots of money to find a goalie, and a top 4 dman. Even more once Lupul is LTIRed.
 
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James van Riemsdyk ($4.25) - Steven Stamkos ($9.75) - Mitch Marner ($0.925M)
Milan Michalek ($4.00M) - Auston Matthews ($0.925) - William Nylander ($0.894M) --> Wanted to put a veteran presence with the 2 kids
Leo Komarov ($2.95M) - Nazem Kadri ($4.5M) - Nikita Soshnikov ($0.736M)
Zach Hyman ($0.900M)- Brooks Laich ($4.5M) - Connor Brown ($0.686M)
Josh Leivo (RFA)

Morgan Rielly ($5.00M) - Martin Marincin (RFA)
Jake Gardiner ($4.05M) - Nikita Zaitsev ($0.925M)
Matt Hunwick ($1.2M) - Connor Carrick (RFA)
Frank Corrado (RFA)

Jonathan Bernier (4.15M)
Garret Sparks (RFA)

Robidas Island:

Stephane Robidas ($3.00M)
Joffrey Lupul ($5.25M)

Traded/not qualified:

Tyler Bozak ($4.20M)
Peter Holland (RFA)
Jared Cowen ($3.10M) - Or if someone doesn't trade for him, buy him out and take his $650K cap credit

Buried:

Colin Greening ($1.7M) --> tempted to keep him with the team as the 13th forward and trade Leivo since we have space
Byron Froese (N/A)

LTIR:

Nathan Horton ($5.3M)

Total Cap hit: $60.29M
Available Cap Space ($74M cap): $13.71M

Needs: Goaltending, #2/3 defender,
Luxury adds: Little bit of size/toughness i.e. Chris Stewart or Matt Martin
 
Those are all good looking lineups ....

- Don't think we can sign Stamkos AND make him play wing. It's reported to be one of the reasons he's leaving Tampa - he wants to play center. Eventually maybe Babs can convince him to play wing, but not when the ink is still wet on his new contract
- Babs will likely manage Matthew's icetime as an 18 year old in the NHL initially and don't expect him to be 1C or 2C
- Agreed Bozak will be traded
- Won't be surprised if Lou makes a trade for a G this summer ... but for now I'll assume it's Bernier and Sparks
- Greening's last 15 games or so with us suggest he deserves a spot on the big club
- Babs is a big believer of having at least 1 'vet' on every line, so having a 'kids line' is improbable
- Harrington, Percy and Leivo are no longer waiver exempt and either we trade them, we play them, or we lose them

I think our opening day lineup will hence looks something like this ...

JVR - Stamkos - Nylander
Komarov - Kadri - Marner
Sosh - Matthews - Greenings
Hyman - Laich - Leivo/ Brown

Rielly - Gardiner
Hunwick - Zaitsev
Maricin - Corrado / Harrington

Bernier
Sparks

Traded / Waived: Bozak, Percy, Holland
Signed: Stamkos
 
number17 said:
Those are all good looking lineups ....

- Don't think we can sign Stamkos AND make him play wing. It's reported to be one of the reasons he's leaving Tampa - he wants to play center. Eventually maybe Babs can convince him to play wing, but not when the ink is still wet on his new contract
- Babs will likely manage Matthew's icetime as an 18 year old in the NHL initially and don't expect him to be 1C or 2C
- Agreed Bozak will be traded
- Won't be surprised if Lou makes a trade for a G this summer ... but for now I'll assume it's Bernier and Sparks
- Greening's last 15 games or so with us suggest he deserves a spot on the big club
- Babs is a big believer of having at least 1 'vet' on every line, so having a 'kids line' is improbable
- Harrington, Percy and Leivo are no longer waiver exempt and either we trade them, we play them, or we lose them

I think our opening day lineup will hence looks something like this ...

JVR - Stamkos - Nylander
Komarov - Kadri - Marner
Sosh - Matthews - Greenings
Hyman - Laich - Leivo/ Brown

Rielly - Gardiner
Hunwick - Zaitsev
Maricin - Corrado / Harrington

Bernier
Sparks

Traded / Waived: Bozak, Percy, Holland
Signed: Stamkos
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Agree with all your statements, I just have trouble with us not having Komarov - Kadri - Soshnikov as a line after how well they did last year.
 
For me I'd like to separate out JVR and Stamkos as they are both trigger men. Something like this:

JVR-Nylander-Komarov
Stamkos-Kadri-Marner
Brown-Matthews-Soshnikov
Hyman-Laich-Leivo
 
trujaysfan said:
Agree with all your statements, I just have trouble with us not having Komarov - Kadri - Soshnikov as a line after how well they did last year.
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If we go with the kids, we probably have to split Kadri and Komo up to babysit more of them.
 
zeke said:
with no established elite goalies available, why wouldn't you sign the guy who led the league in even strength save percentage this year on a middle market contract?
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Everyone knows Reimer is your favourite player. That's what the face palm is about.
 
Reimer is probably the best UFA goalie out there, which isn't a great thing. I'd bring him back on a 1 year deal but anything more than that isn't worth it. He just doesn't have the consistency to count on from year to year and Bishop might be available next year and there will be a whole bunch of goalie movement with the expansion draft.

It shouldn't be too hard to find a reliable starter over the next year. Just get the best one available.
 
leafman101 said:
Reimer is probably the best UFA goalie out there, which isn't a great thing. I'd bring him back on a 1 year deal but anything more than that isn't worth it. He just doesn't have the consistency to count on from year to year and Bishop might be available next year and there will be a whole bunch of goalie movement with the expansion draft.

It shouldn't be too hard to find a reliable starter over the next year. Just get the best one available.
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On what planet is Reimer>Neuvirth?
 
Neuvirth is just as inconsistent, and his one good year this year wasn't any better than Reimer's year. They both have a career .914 save percentage over ~200 games. They are pretty much the same thing.

The guy had 2 good games in the playoffs, lets not go crazy.
 
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