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He is until proven otherwise. That means his accusers have to come out of the shadows and point the finger in court. And if the information they are leaking could get them prosecuted then they shouldn't be leaking, they should be reporting to their higher authority. If they work in CSIS they are sworn to protect sensitive information, not leak it to grandstanding reporters with a hard on for China. They signed an oath.
it is ok to say party you will vote for is corrupted
 
This will be tricky, because not only did the Liberals benefit, but so did the CPC in two ridings.
If is were only one party, the finger pointing would be more severe.
 
while I would be concerned if we see evidence showing this is true, am I wrong in saying that... we've seen no evidence that this is actually true?

If you will simply read this expose from Rebel News, I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion I have....
 
and inb4 any stupidity....

If this Liberal muppet actually did what he's being accused of and it breaks any laws...throw him the fuck in jail. If it breaks any sort of code of conduct from a MP...throw him the fuck out of the party and parliament.

But if we're saying that Liberal leadership is compromised because of this....is PP compromised by conservative MP's taking selfies with openly white nationalist european politicians? Or can a simple "I was unaware of the politics of this....ummm....CCP operative" white wash it?
 
while I would be concerned if we see evidence showing this is true, am I wrong in saying that... we've seen no evidence that this is actually true?
We know he bad the convo, Ding Dong admitted that much. He claims it it being mischaracterized which implies he said it but the interpretation is incorrect. Unless he tapes the convo like Jodas Raybould did, we will likely never hear the exact words. In any event, in politics, evidence no longer matters.
 
while I would be concerned if we see evidence showing this is true, am I wrong in saying that... we've seen no evidence that this is actually true?

Unless Johnson comes to the conclusion that a public inquiry is warranted you won’t likely see any concrete evidence.

Even then there is no guarantee the Trudeau would follow the recommendation.
 
We know he bad the convo, Ding Dong admitted that much. He claims it it being mischaracterized which implies he said it but the interpretation is incorrect. Unless he tapes the convo like Jodas Raybould did, we will likely never hear the exact words. In any event, in politics, evidence no longer matters.
even if he had the convo as alleged, how does that implicate JT and the party at large in anything?
 
We know he bad the convo, Ding Dong admitted that much. He claims it it being mischaracterized which implies he said it but the interpretation is incorrect. Unless he tapes the convo like Jodas Raybould did, we will likely never hear the exact words. In any event, in politics, evidence no longer matters.
He had the convo and the convo was initiated by the Chinese, not by Dong. He also denies the part about asking the Chinese to keep the 2 Michaels in prison, an allegation that is absurd on its face because there is no way that delaying their release would help the Liberals.
 
even if he had the convo as alleged, how does that implicate JT and the party at large in anything?
same way Pierre who denounced the Euro MP who met with Lewis and the other backbenchers has to be owned by him?

Trudeau is the leader, he owns all that his MPs do, leaders are ultimately responsible
 
same way Pierre who denounced the Euro MP who met with Lewis and the other backbenchers has to be owned by him?

Trudeau is the leader, he owns all that his MPs do, leaders are ultimately responsible
the rule you propose is not a rule that has ever really existed in Canadian politics though. if it was, MPs would never be booted out of caucus for doing dumb shit, instead the leader would take the hit.

yeah, the Libs will try to use the lunatic MPs against Poilievre. Likewise, the cons will do the same with Dong.
 
the rule you propose is not a rule that has ever really existed in Canadian politics though. if it was, MPs would never be booted out of caucus for doing dumb shit, instead the leader would take the hit.

yeah, the Libs will try to use the lunatic MPs against Poilievre. Likewise, the cons will do the same with Dong.


Also note that Dong is no longer in the Liberal caucus, while the lunatic fascist MP’s are still members of good standing in the CPC caucus.

One of them (Leslyn Lewis) is also still a member of Poilievre’s shadow cabinet.
 
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