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worm said:
sure and if the PCs lose it is on them

and when the liberals lose it is on them


that is how elections work
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The NDP in Ontario have always used excuses for losing elections. They have use excuses like "Liberal lies" and how strategic voting hurts them constantly.

This election the Liberal vote has collapsed and the PC's are running the worst leader potentially in history - yet the NDP still might lose this election. They have no excuses this time.
 
LeafGm said:
Seems like kind of a fool's game to definitively state at this point what the early voting means.

Could be new "Ford Nation" voters turning out to vote PC. It could be the same young people that came out to vote for Trudeau coming out both to cast a vote against Ford, and because the NDP has a chance at power in Ontario for the first time in a generation. It could be a pretty even split between the two.
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Ugh. You can find credible resources.
 
It may well be that women will get even more mobilized to vote against Ford due to the lawsuit.
 
UWHabs said:
High Liberal numbers locked in before the leader quit, which helps the PCs more, as those are votes the NDP can't gain.
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one in five have already voted, and of that one in five, a little more than one in four have voted for the Liberals.

Again, unless there is a huge surge in the last day of this thing, Premier Ford is but a formality.

The NDP and Liberals cancelled each other out, and in all honesty, I blame the NDP. No one cares about their platform, yet that's all they have been talking about. People cared about keeping ford out, they haven't been beating that drum enough. Really poor campaign to be honest.
 
Altair said:
Too little, too late I think.
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Nah, we've been seeing big swings in voting intention since the 2011 federal election. Don't be shocked if there's a big shift over the few days. Liberal supporters now know the party won't win and lean strongly toward an NDP win over Ford.

This will be uberinteresting to see how it shakes out Thursday.
 
CaptainBolduke said:
Ignore me in other threads, but don't when it comes to Ontario politics and voting habits.
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OK, but I do seem to remember you confidently asserting not too long ago, as an Ontario politics "expert", that Ford's appeal didn't stretch beyond parts of Toronto, and that he didn't have a chance of winning the PC leadership/becoming Premier.

And yet here we are.
 
BeLeafer said:
Nah, we've been seeing big swings in voting intention since the 2011 federal election. Don't be shocked if there's a big shift over the few days. Liberal supporters now know the party won't win and lean strongly toward an NDP win over Ford.

This will be uberinteresting to see how it shakes out Thursday.
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Interesting like a car wreck I'm assuming.

I fully expect the PCs to sneak out wins all over the place, liberal support hovering around 19 percent, and the really inefficient NDP vote limiting the amount of seats they can get.

I'm mentally prepared for four years of Ford. I'm also eyeing moving to Gatineau.
 
Altair said:
Interesting like a car wreck I'm assuming.

I fully expect the PCs to sneak out wins all over the place, liberal support hovering around 19 percent, and the really inefficient NDP vote limiting the amount of seats they can get.

I'm mentally prepared for four years of Ford. I'm also eyeing moving to Gatineau.
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The big factor in my mind is if the Liberal vote collapses at the finish line. Believe me, I'm dreading a Ford win. We're still living with the fallout from the Harris years. Four more years of that and I too may consider moving out of Ontario. I've had my fill of stepping over damaged humans left to rot because the safety net was vaporized.
 
Macleans-Pollara post-Wynne announcement 39-37-17 for PC. They've got advance voters breaking 43-36-15 for the PCs, which is even stronger than the other one. So, yup, looks like we'll have a 75+ seat PC victory. Sigh.
 
Altair said:
one in five have already voted, and of that one in five, a little more than one in four have voted for the Liberals.

Again, unless there is a huge surge in the last day of this thing, Premier Ford is but a formality.

The NDP and Liberals cancelled each other out, and in all honesty, I blame the NDP. No one cares about their platform, yet that's all they have been talking about. People cared about keeping ford out, they haven't been beating that drum enough. Really poor campaign to be honest.
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I personally like this method.
Give me a reason to vote for you.
 
Altair said:
Interesting like a car wreck I'm assuming.

I fully expect the PCs to sneak out wins all over the place, liberal support hovering around 19 percent, and the really inefficient NDP vote limiting the amount of seats they can get.

I'm mentally prepared for four years of Ford. I'm also eyeing moving to Gatineau.
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have to agree with your assessment.

I'm moving back to Halifax, and while I wish I could attribute it to Ford, it was in the cards anyways.
 
UWHabs said:
Macleans-Pollara post-Wynne announcement 39-37-17 for PC. They've got advance voters breaking 43-36-15 for the PCs, which is even stronger than the other one. So, yup, looks like we'll have a 75+ seat PC victory. Sigh.
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smells like alberta
 
I love their platform. Restoring operating funding to public transportation is long overdue.

Erasing what sunk the liberals and created another corporate lackey feeding trough is also badly needed.
 
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