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Next time you're in Japan be like Mrs. Presto and load up! They have one (I don't know which one since I only pretend to listen to her) that certain individuals go nuts for and they wear it daily.
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not really arguable to me. we can literally see the skin damage on people who have years in the sun with no sunscreen. it's right in front of us.

well if we're going anecdotal i'd say that the old pasty wrinkly fucks look worse to me than the old tanned wrinkly fucks.
 
I like seeing our Forumice Asian representation coming to the defense of sunscreen. Keep it up, folks. You fuckers live longer than all of us, you're doing something right.
 
We need sunscreen now because we live so long. Wasn't an issue 150 years ago.

it's an interesting point.

by all accounts....

1. the ozone is in much better shape than it was 30 years ago
2. people spend less time outdoors than they did 30 years ago
3. sunscreen use is way more prevalent than it was 30 years ago

and despite all this, skin cancer rates continue to go up and up.


most of that seems due to age, the big spike is in people over 75, and in north america average life expectancy was around 75 30-40yrs ago and is now closer to 85.

but there's also been a solid increase in the age 50-75 cohort

and then rates for everyone under 50 haven't decreased either - they've remained pretty much perfectly steady.


this increase doesn't seem to be due to an increase in exposure to UV light.
 
Next time you're in Japan be like Mrs. Presto and load up! They have one (I don't know which one since I only pretend to listen to her) that certain individuals go nuts for and they wear it daily.

p.s. asians don't wear creams for health they do it because they want to be as white as possible. indonesia is the biggest cosmetics consumer in the world and it's mostly whitening creams.
 
it's an interesting point.

by all accounts....

1. the ozone is in much better shape than it was 30 years ago
2. people spend less time outdoors than they did 30 years ago
3. sunscreen use is way more prevalent than it was 30 years ago

and despite all this, skin cancer rates continue to go up and up.


most of that seems due to age, the big spike is in people over 75, and in north america average life expectancy was around 75 30-40yrs ago and is now closer to 85.

but there's also been a solid increase in the age 50-75 cohort

and then rates for everyone under 50 haven't decreased either - they've remained pretty much perfectly steady.


this increase doesn't seem to be due to an increase in exposure to UV light.
and if we just stopped looking for the covid, we'd have less cases too.

you're going full trump here.
 
p.s. asians don't wear creams for health they do it because they want to be as white as possible. indonesia is the biggest cosmetics consumer in the world and it's mostly whitening creams.
Of course it's not for health, never said it was.

Btw skin cancer rates amongst the highest consumer of sunscreen, Asians, in the US is significantly lower than it is for whites. Just fyi. It's about a 20-25 fold difference. They may not do it for health but it sure seems to have a positive impact.
 
@Mindz since you are closely linked to Big Sunscreen, what brand do you recommend? especially for the face (I'm heading south in a few days)
something reef safe and ideally zinc oxide based.

MEC, which has generally gone to shit, has good options. think the brand is ThinkSport? I get the baby version cause I prefer the scents in that one to the adult scents.
 
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I mean, being out in the sun is awesome. Sometimes you just have to enjoy. And Vitamin D is produced from exposing your skin to the sun, so we obviously need some of it.

Going tarps off with an ice cold beer on that first warm sunny spring day is one of the greatest things in life.
i completely agree. total sun worshipper. it gets gloomy as fuck here in the winter.
 
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