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OT: American Politics

hockeylover said:
he’s promised that he’s firing all the generals.

I’m just not sure there are any guardrails he hasn’t dismantled or promised to dismantle in Project 2025.
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this seems to be what people are not paying attention to. all the 'well his first four years weren't so bad' folks.

a LOT has changed since his first four years. and most of the changes take the form of internal checks that used to exist being lessened or made meaningless, either through systemic changes, or changes to key personnel.
 
MindzEye said:
The takeway here isn't that all of the data is fake and the deep state is trying to fool you. It's that it's the best data we have at the moment, which will get better later when it's studied better, and to not make any huge decisions based on a small amount of data points. Politicians of all stripes are always going to try to spin the data to look better for them, that's politics. As long as the gathering and reporting of the data is free of systemic bias (which by all appearances it looks to be. Data nerds argue around the fringes of what numbers are more important than these other numbers and which should carry what weight in whatever analysis, but nobody serious claims it's made up or otherwise fugazi), you take it for what it's worth and move on. When you're dealing with an economy as large as the US economy, small shifts in data can mean initial estimate errors in the 100's of billions of dollars.
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I wish there were some way for FlyGuy and his right-leaning cronies to read this paragraph every day like an affirmation. Because this keeps happening like an epidemic.

At the very least, his takeaway should at least be to look at these things a little more critically. If the argument is that everything mainstream economists believe to be true is fake including the data, you are probably dealing with someone who is lying. Yes data can and often is manipulated, that's part of what makes this such a crisis. But so many on the right are either dishonest or misinterpreting the data.
 
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