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OT: American Politics

UWHabs said:
I mean, raw milk is one of the few I'm marginally closer to willing to be more libertarian on. Obviously for mass consumption, I want legit rules and all of that. But if you want to drive down to a farm, pet a cow, and put your mouth on its teet and suck it, go ahead. I'm fine with that being legal if you want to do that to yourself.

But there's a difference between "let that be legal" and "have the surgeon general believe in that". It should be legal, with a surgeon general's warning that it could cause serious illness and all that usual jazz.
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Like I said, I’m out of patience with this shit. In the past, I’d have maybe been able to take a more sanguine view of this.

But these people are modern-day Savonarolas, seeking to take a torch to accumulated human knowledge and experience, so that it can be replaced with their own beliefs that are based on nothing except a religious faith and fervour of sorts.
 
It's the misinformation of believing that raw milk is significantly healthier or will make observable improvements to your skin, energy, general health, etc. that bothers me most. Yeah people can drink it and yeah the risks are low. But why the hell would you take even a low risk when there's an alternative product with the same nutrients and essentially 0 health risks?

Stop trying to reinvent science you morons.
 
Preston said:
It's the misinformation of believing that raw milk is significantly healthier or will make observable improvements to your skin, energy, general health, etc. that bothers me most. Yeah people can drink it and yeah the risks are low. But why the hell would you take even a low risk when there's an alternative product with the same nutrients and essentially 0 health risks?

Stop trying to reinvent science you morons.
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Yep. of all of the unnatural aspects of modern life to go after, you're picking pasteurization?

Not micro plastics, or industrial emissions, or run off from farming killing rivers and sea life.....pasteurization.

Fuck off
 
Preston said:
It's the misinformation of believing that raw milk is significantly healthier or will make observable improvements to your skin, energy, general health, etc. that bothers me most. Yeah people can drink it and yeah the risks are low. But why the hell would you take even a low risk when there's an alternative product with the same nutrients and essentially 0 health risks?

Stop trying to reinvent science you morons.
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A theory I heard is that they like science and tech when it’s manly and makes life easier (F-150s, weapons, dishwashers) but not when it generates restrictions and regulation (smoking bans, pollution/low carbon, seat belts.)
 
lecoqsportif said:
A theory I heard is that they like science and tech when it’s manly and makes life easier (F-150s, weapons, dishwashers) but not when it generates restrictions and regulation (smoking bans, pollution/low carbon, seat belts.)
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100%. They all think they're cave men from pre historic times and think that living like they did will yield better results for health. It's a whole movement that is entirely based on masculinity and trying to live like our ancestors.
 
Of course the irony is that they learned this stuff from very modern inventions called the iPhone and tiktok. But they're ok with those. They don't ACTUALLY want to live like our ancestors. They just want to larp from doing things like ingesting raw milk and putting their bare feet on grass and thinking they've solved the world.
 
I notice this obsession with masculinity creeping into so many discussions lately and I find it kinda disturbing. It seems to be a lot of really bad advice that actually seems to drive a bigger wedge between men and women and prevent them from having healthy relationships. They’re creating the “male loneliness epidemic” themselves.
 
Preston said:
Of course the irony is that they learned this stuff from very modern inventions called the iPhone and tiktok. But they're ok with those. They don't ACTUALLY want to live like our ancestors. They just want to larp from doing things like ingesting raw milk and putting their bare feet on grass and thinking they've solved the world.
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It’s like they want to consume iPhones and Air Jordans, not make them.
 
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