Re: OT: Canadian Politics
why would they have to? They are already on top of the chain.
why would they have to? They are already on top of the chain.
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mbow30
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
and another thing about this ford-dale nonsense...
in his bluster ford often loses sight of the bigger picture, and it really takes away from whatever political skills he might have. a smart, savvy politician uses these sorts of intrusions as opportunities to make their critics look bad. ford obviously knew who was behind his house. if he handled it like a rational human being he would have asked dale what the hell he was doing snooping around the neighbourhood and told him to leave... then poked fun at the situation in a media scrum the following day.
but physical threats, intimidation, confiscating property, subsequently using that property, then acting like a baby and threatening to not talk to the press until the city's largest newspaper stops covering city hall is a joke.
ford likes to pretend that the bad press is just because of the big bad leftist star, but that isn't the case. yes, the star is biased. but he's the one who keeps putting the fat in the fire then fanning the flames.
when you are a public figure you have to deal with the media's gaze being focused on you. they are going to disagree with you. sometimes they will trash you. sometimes they will say things that hurt your feelings. but putting on a faux tough guy act then placing your hands over your ears and screaming 'LALALALALALALALALALALALA' isn't going to win you better press, or make those criticisms go away.
rob ford is an embarrassment to this city, and it's his own doing. it frustrates me to no end knowing that people in this city voted him in.
this isn't a political matter, either. frankly, i don't care what political bent municipal politicians have because it doesn't much matter, so long as they are working to improve this city. but ford is an arrogant *******, and a dangerous man to have wielding power because he does not have the slightest clue as to how to exercise it.
and another thing about this ford-dale nonsense...
in his bluster ford often loses sight of the bigger picture, and it really takes away from whatever political skills he might have. a smart, savvy politician uses these sorts of intrusions as opportunities to make their critics look bad. ford obviously knew who was behind his house. if he handled it like a rational human being he would have asked dale what the hell he was doing snooping around the neighbourhood and told him to leave... then poked fun at the situation in a media scrum the following day.
but physical threats, intimidation, confiscating property, subsequently using that property, then acting like a baby and threatening to not talk to the press until the city's largest newspaper stops covering city hall is a joke.
ford likes to pretend that the bad press is just because of the big bad leftist star, but that isn't the case. yes, the star is biased. but he's the one who keeps putting the fat in the fire then fanning the flames.
when you are a public figure you have to deal with the media's gaze being focused on you. they are going to disagree with you. sometimes they will trash you. sometimes they will say things that hurt your feelings. but putting on a faux tough guy act then placing your hands over your ears and screaming 'LALALALALALALALALALALALA' isn't going to win you better press, or make those criticisms go away.
rob ford is an embarrassment to this city, and it's his own doing. it frustrates me to no end knowing that people in this city voted him in.
this isn't a political matter, either. frankly, i don't care what political bent municipal politicians have because it doesn't much matter, so long as they are working to improve this city. but ford is an arrogant *******, and a dangerous man to have wielding power because he does not have the slightest clue as to how to exercise it.
theREALkoreaboy
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Re: OT: Canadian Politics
BS. total BS. it is completely ridiculous that a hostile press outlet sent a reporter to skulk around in the bushes behind the mayor's house in the night looking for god knows what. forget the fact that he's the mayor- he's a man with a family. if i see some strange character lurking around my property, i'm scared, i'm upset, and i'm going to take steps to do something about it- a call to the police and perhaps checking out what's going on for starters.
it is unacceptable for the star to have done something like this, and i think it's understandable how ford reacted. many of us probably would have acted the same way.
BS. total BS. it is completely ridiculous that a hostile press outlet sent a reporter to skulk around in the bushes behind the mayor's house in the night looking for god knows what. forget the fact that he's the mayor- he's a man with a family. if i see some strange character lurking around my property, i'm scared, i'm upset, and i'm going to take steps to do something about it- a call to the police and perhaps checking out what's going on for starters.
it is unacceptable for the star to have done something like this, and i think it's understandable how ford reacted. many of us probably would have acted the same way.
theREALkoreaboy
New member
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
the guy wasn't just hanging around a park. by accounts i've read it was clear he was trying to peek in over his fence and he was skulking around the property. if i see some strange character casing my property and up to no good, i'm doing something about it, pu$$y.
the guy wasn't just hanging around a park. by accounts i've read it was clear he was trying to peek in over his fence and he was skulking around the property. if i see some strange character casing my property and up to no good, i'm doing something about it, pu$$y.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
he wasn't a 'strange character', he was a reporter who has covered the mayor's office since 2010.
rob ford knew exactly who was out there.
and his reason for being there WAS clear -- to look at the public property the mayor has petitioned to purchase from the city.
i love your selective reading of what the reporter was doing there.
and i also like that you completely ignore the fact that ford knew EXACTLY who was there.
and yeah, i'm still calling your bluff. you would close the curtains, hide in your house and call the cops.
because somebody is walking around park land adjacent your property.
he wasn't a 'strange character', he was a reporter who has covered the mayor's office since 2010.
rob ford knew exactly who was out there.
and his reason for being there WAS clear -- to look at the public property the mayor has petitioned to purchase from the city.
i love your selective reading of what the reporter was doing there.
and i also like that you completely ignore the fact that ford knew EXACTLY who was there.
and yeah, i'm still calling your bluff. you would close the curtains, hide in your house and call the cops.
because somebody is walking around park land adjacent your property.
theREALkoreaboy
New member
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
call away. i, (unlike you, i'm guessing) actually have owned property for years. i have had to deal with situations like this. if i see/hear something around my property that i'm worried about for my family, i'm taking steps to deal with it. i'm calling the cops and then i'm going out there. done it before, would do it again.
call away. i, (unlike you, i'm guessing) actually have owned property for years. i have had to deal with situations like this. if i see/hear something around my property that i'm worried about for my family, i'm taking steps to deal with it. i'm calling the cops and then i'm going out there. done it before, would do it again.
corksens
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
If I was the mayor who has many detractors and someone was lurking outside of my home (it was dusk, not broad daylight) then I'd go take a look.
What happened as an overreaction by Mayor Ford, but an inappropriate approach by the Star reporter. They have it out to get Ford. He wants a tiny sliver of land to put up a fence and they send out the beat reporter. Get a life.
If I was the mayor who has many detractors and someone was lurking outside of my home (it was dusk, not broad daylight) then I'd go take a look.
What happened as an overreaction by Mayor Ford, but an inappropriate approach by the Star reporter. They have it out to get Ford. He wants a tiny sliver of land to put up a fence and they send out the beat reporter. Get a life.
corksens
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
The appropriate thing to do would have been for the Toronto Star and the reporter to send the Mayors office an e-mail letting them know they were doing a story and a reporter will be around the back of his property between x and y.
He's the fvcking Mayor of Toronto for goodness sake. No one should be hanging around near his back yard and looking over his property, even if it is public land.
The appropriate thing to do would have been for the Toronto Star and the reporter to send the Mayors office an e-mail letting them know they were doing a story and a reporter will be around the back of his property between x and y.
He's the fvcking Mayor of Toronto for goodness sake. No one should be hanging around near his back yard and looking over his property, even if it is public land.
theREALkoreaboy
New member
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
that's the most important fact here- a major media outlet had no business sending out a reporter to case the mayor's property because he wants to build a fence. and its pretty clear the poor bastard needs a higher fence because scumbag toronto star media hacks seem to want to ogle him and his family.
that's the most important fact here- a major media outlet had no business sending out a reporter to case the mayor's property because he wants to build a fence. and its pretty clear the poor bastard needs a higher fence because scumbag toronto star media hacks seem to want to ogle him and his family.
corksens
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Instead of denouncing the violence and absurd demands of this student group you're off on a tangent about how the "rich" are more entitled.
Could you please stop this?
Instead of denouncing the violence and absurd demands of this student group you're off on a tangent about how the "rich" are more entitled.
theREALkoreaboy
New member
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
he's just aping hopeychange's upcoming campaign strategy- no matter what the topic, no matter what the question, ALWAYS turn it into a class envy argument.
he's just aping hopeychange's upcoming campaign strategy- no matter what the topic, no matter what the question, ALWAYS turn it into a class envy argument.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
well, there's also the important fact that the land he wants to build the fence on is public property.
well, there's also the important fact that the land he wants to build the fence on is public property.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
and yet the class obama apparently wants to wage war with is his own kind.
and yet the class obama apparently wants to wage war with is his own kind.
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
I don't condone the violence or some of the demands but what's wrong with the actual protests? That they don't want to take it up the ass like Ontario when it comes to tuition fees? Again, your opinion on what is a fair tuition to pay means nothing, you are not from Quebec.
Fairness is subjective. So you don't have the right to tell them that they are entitled for wanting to pay less tuition.
I don't condone the violence or some of the demands but what's wrong with the actual protests? That they don't want to take it up the ass like Ontario when it comes to tuition fees? Again, your opinion on what is a fair tuition to pay means nothing, you are not from Quebec.
Fairness is subjective. So you don't have the right to tell them that they are entitled for wanting to pay less tuition.
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corksens
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
Which is why he has placed an application to the city...like 1000's of other residents do each year.
corksens
Legend
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
b) Quebec already pays the lowest amount of tuition in the country - and STILL will, even after the increases.
Fairness isn't "subjective". It's relative. Quebec isn't as special as they think they are. They run their finances just like the rest of the country.
a) We don't take it up the ass in Ontario, our post-secondary education is heavily subsidized.
b) Quebec already pays the lowest amount of tuition in the country - and STILL will, even after the increases.
Fairness isn't "subjective". It's relative. Quebec isn't as special as they think they are. They run their finances just like the rest of the country.
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
mbow30
Spudmeister Supreme
Re: OT: Canadian Politics
ford has refused to talk to the star since being elected.
so, no, this wouldn't have been appropriate because it wouldn't have elicited a response.
ford has refused to talk to the star since being elected.
so, no, this wouldn't have been appropriate because it wouldn't have elicited a response.