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OT: American Politics

corksens said:
I love heavy metal...but I have no intentions of killing myself and frolicking in hell.

Music is music. Few people actually listen for the message.
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It's one thing to ignore subtle messages. I ignore some of the libertarian overtones of Rush. Rage Against The Machine though... yeah it's about politics. They're a political band, start to finish, and if you don't listen to the lyrics you're seriously missing the point IMO.
 
corksens said:
Jays is just disenchanted cause he hasn't had a pay check recently :)

KB, you'll be the same way in a few weeks when you realize alot of your "perks" for being a super-elite 3rd line teacher are being legislated out by McGuinty.
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Had a phone interview with MLSE two days ago. They are calling back next week to set up an in-person interview. Hopefully all goes well. :cheers2:
 
20 days.

A full month of working days.

Meaning you get 4 months off a year.

But do all teachers teach kindergarten? Cause I thought some taught in high schools?
 
i would when that elected gov't passes a law that brazenly and blatantly contravenes existing law, and overturns decades of collective bargaining practice forever.

and you munchkins understand that teachers almost never take 20 sick days, right? that the avg. is less than 9 sick days? and that this "savings" by eliminating the sick bank is simply an accounting trick to allow the liberals to say they are cutting $1.4bil from the deficit while not actually doing that, right?
 
Hypocrisy, thy name is Korea.

Hates big govt except when it comes to giving teachers gold plated pensions.

Hate public service, thinks private sector should do it all, except of course teaching.

Courts are unelected *******s who should be mindful of the legislature, until it comes time to screw with teachers.
 
theREALkoreaboy said:
germany has a dynamic, well-educated, historically powerful economy that has been built on trade
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As well as extensive government regulation, and a robust social safety net...aka "big government"

sweden has in the last decade started to rethink its model, has elected rightist gov'ts that have brought in reforms that have led to a big jump in growth and productivity.
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Real GDP growth in Sweden was actually higher in the 1998-2000 period than it was in the period you're likely referencing (2004-06). Again though, extensive regulation, robust social safety net...AKA: Big Government. Doing just fine.

finland is based on the strength of some corporate giants like nokia, not on gov't largesse.
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Extensive regulation and robust social safety nets


and denmark? who cares?
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See above


All are strong economies, that function just fine with high levels of rational government spending.
 
HabsAddict said:
It IS the case of a Western country whose socialist policies and politics have failed miserably...and the consequences that followed. Other then Canadian natural resources, there is nothing different. If for example Newfoundland were a country without resources and it followed a left agenda of unfettered expenditures and entitlements, they would be in the exact same boat the Greeks are.
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There's absolutely nothing other than your say so to support this. The greek legal, and taxation system is, and has been broken for generations. That is simply not the case in Canada.

As for your second paragraph, it makes no sense at all. You haven't witnessed the breathtaking view of rows upon rows of people in 1950's style desks doing...........NOTHING. I have literally been instructed to see a certain person in a certain desk deal with a specific subject based on the fist letter of my last name.
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I never said that wasteful spending isn't a problem...simply that Greece's biggest problem is that everyone expects those services, but refuses to pay taxes for them to be funded. The Greek taxation system is completely broken.

If you want to argue that there was not enough tax collectors, that is not true either. They simply could not do their jobs because various versions of left governments made it impossible for the tax collectors to go after THEIR base or interests.
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Or as I stated in my previous post...absence of government is the problem there, not "too much government". The government is far too absent in policing the taxation system...that's the problem.

If you think that is far fetched in Canada, then you are not paying attention or don't know of the favourable tax rates something like green energy has in Ontario. I'm sure it goes on with other sectors too but I am not that familiar with them.
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Government revenues are fine in Canada.

Early retirement, relatively generous pensions, protected interests and sectors, bloated burro'cracy and wasteful agenda driven government projects did them in. By no means is unfettered expenditures and entitlements a unique Greek problem. It could do the same to any country which follows the same path. Greece IS a very relevant lesson in big government and leftist policy failures.
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and none of those problems, however much hand waving is done about them, would be nearly as important as they are if the government wasn't absent in tax collection.

There are numerous examples of too little government in the world as well...Greece is an example of what can happen to a small, economically unimportant nation when it is mismanaged for generations. Not sure how that is instructive for other western nations.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Had a phone interview with MLSE two days ago. They are calling back next week to set up an in-person interview. Hopefully all goes well. :cheers2:
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I'll take 2. One with mustard, the other plain, and a heinekein if you've got.

Cheers.



I kid, I kid...good luck ****er
 
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