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OT: American Politics

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blacksheep said:
So a term of roughly twice what the PM who appointed them gets? No, I don't agree, and neither does any other sane Canadian.
Three, maybe four years, tops.
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That's insane - the turnover would be huge.

If we want to get the 'best' candidates then we need to offer some tenure to the position. Few people would leave their businesses, practices, whatever, just for a 3-year Senate appointment.
 
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Jamie Strashin @StrashinCBC
Bobblehead fever at City Hall. Hundreds line up for Ford bobbleheads.

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Jamie Strashin @StrashinCBC
There is talk now of a one Bobblehead limit due the overwhelming demand.

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Jamie Strashin @StrashinCBC
Looks like we will be a little delayed here. Mayor wants to personally thank people. He is on his way into city hall.

Jamie Strashin @StrashinCBC
As if there was any doubt, Ford bobblehead already listed on on Kijiji for $500. I'm sure if sold, that money will go to United Way. Right?

Jamie Strashin @StrashinCBC
Bobblehead madness.

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Jamie Strashin @StrashinCBC
General tone of Mayor to people in line: gotta keep moving forward, I'm not going anywhere.

Ben Spurr @BenSpurr
Rob Ford and a baby

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blacksheep said:
The actual auditor's report shows that amount unaccounted for.
He still wants the F35s, and that's what they would cost over their lifetime.
Own up to it.
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The auditors report shows that over nearly a decade, and over two different governments (half of that time being under LIBERAL leadership) that funding was neither wasted or misspent, but rather accounted for incorrectly.

How you try to pin this as anything bad on Harper is literally absurd.
 
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corksens said:
I'll be honest - I have no knowledge of this particular issue. My guess is that aside from that article you don't either.
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I love your assumptions. You don't know a thing about me, yet you dismiss my thoughts. By your own admission, you are the one ignorant on this issue, yet you can still arrogantly think you know more than I do about it.


Clearly cutting veterans services is bad - but streamlining veterans services isn't. Whether something carries the weight of Veterans or not, if it can be improved then it must be.

How often to case managers even meet with Veterans anyways?
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As I've already shown, the case loads are already way too high, based on what his own minister says is his standard, but they're still going to close them.
Do you even know how many people work in those offices? What will be saved by putting 30 people or so out of work and forcing vets to travel five hours to get service? If that's acceptable streamlining to you, then I'd say you suck as a manager.
 
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corksens said:
That's insane - the turnover would be huge.

If we want to get the 'best' candidates then we need to offer some tenure to the position. Few people would leave their businesses, practices, whatever, just for a 3-year Senate appointment.
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High turnover is a problem for a group that's known to do nothing useful for the rest of their lives?? Seriously???
 
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JaysCyYoung said:
And they cancelled the contract. You should be happy, no? I'd rather have a government that can admit when it's wrong, which is exactly what happened in this instance.

Everyone wins.
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Problem was, they only admitted they were wrong after the election.

Beforehand, they were lying through their teeth to parliament and the public about what their ill-fated jets would cost.
 
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worm said:
Dear lord.

Sure some of ties (or were even former MPs, or MLA,s ) but no parties in municipal politics.
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Exactly.

What sort of personal ideology or political affiliation that elected municipal officials have in their personal time has no bearing on their day-to-day operations as public servants.

Or at least shouldn't in theory.
 
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LeafGm said:
Problem was, they only admitted they were wrong after the election.

Beforehand, they were lying through their teeth to parliament and the public about what their ill-fated jets would cost.
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Truth be told, given the level of strong-arming it takes to get the CF any sort of equipment - look at two decades of helicopter debacle after another - I have no issue with a friendly incumbent government stretching the truth in order to procure them new things. There's far too much resistance on average to necessary updating and upgrades for the process to be conducted otherwise, unless the way things are done radically change.
 
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I love your assumptions. You don't know a thing about me, yet you dismiss my thoughts. By your own admission, you are the one ignorant on this issue, yet you can still arrogantly think you know more than I do about it.
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I can't think of another time when you've brought this issue up - but even then, not sure why you think I suggested that I know more than you do. I blatantly admitted not following this particular topic...

As I've already shown, the case loads are already way too high, based on what his own minister says is his standard, but they're still going to close them.
Do you even know how many people work in those offices? What will be saved by putting 30 people or so out of work and forcing vets to travel five hours to get service? If that's acceptable streamlining to you, then I'd say you suck as a manager.
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Well, 30 salaries would be saved...that's just a guess though.

How often, if ever, do these people travel to their case managers? I can't ever think of a time when my grandparents even dealt specifically with case officers. Whenever my grandmother has a problem she calls a general line.
 
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blacksheep said:
High turnover is a problem for a group that's known to do nothing useful for the rest of their lives?? Seriously???
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I know you have been jerking off to this Senate scandal for the past few months, but the Senate does provide a service that this country benefits from. A second form of debate on a topic is never a bad thing.

Which is why most people believe that Senate reform is the way to go and not straight up abolition. But something tells me nothing will please you on this topic.
 
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blacksheep - why won't you tell us what you 'meant' when you said the Senate scandal was already three-quarters of the gas plant cancellation.

I really want to know how we got it wrong when you said that $750k is three-quarters of $1 billion.
 
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What I want to know is why blacksheep cares so much about a "scandal" in which a laughably small amount of money by political standards exchanged hands, and was later repaid at no expense to taxpayers, yet he makes no mention of one of the largest wastes of direct taxpayer-funded dollars in Ontario history.

One overlooked true scandal after another merits no criticism from him. Wonder why that is the case?
 
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Unless he can explain himself better one would have to assume he literally thought that $750k was three-quarters of $1 billion dollars.

Once we pointed out that he was off it was too late to change his opinion.
 
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Nothing wrong with admitting being wrong on here. Come clean for the sake of your shattered conscience, blacksheep.

You'll feel so liberated in the end.
 
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JaysCyYoung said:
Exactly.

What sort of personal ideology or political affiliation that elected municipal officials have in their personal time has no bearing on their day-to-day operations as public servants.

Or at least shouldn't in theory.
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Developer money rules municipal politcs.
 
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