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OT: American Politics

MindzEye said:
Galloway kind of nails it on his podcast today...
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Another good Galloway blurb:

>>Americans conflate wealth with leadership. The bottom 90% tolerate — even celebrate — a Hunger Games economy, where the rich live long, remarkable lives and everyone else dies a slow death. Why? Because each of us believes we’ll eventually reach the top. That belief isn’t optimism but opium, and it keeps the bottom 90% from realizing they’re essentially nutrition for the top 10%. Private jet owners can now accelerate the depreciation on their plane(s), but we’re stripping healthcare from millions of people. Does that make any fucking sense?
 
CH1 said:
Another good Galloway blurb:

>>Americans conflate wealth with leadership. The bottom 90% tolerate — even celebrate — a Hunger Games economy, where the rich live long, remarkable lives and everyone else dies a slow death. Why? Because each of us believes we’ll eventually reach the top. That belief isn’t optimism but opium, and it keeps the bottom 90% from realizing they’re essentially nutrition for the top 10%. Private jet owners can now accelerate the depreciation on their plane(s), but we’re stripping healthcare from millions of people. Does that make any fucking sense?
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I like him, he's so close to having a fully functioning clue but he still deeply struggles in admitting that the government can play a role in anything positive for society. He's pretty ridiculous re: Mamdami and ensuring that poor people have access to food without private profit motive. You know, the exact market mechanism that failed those people in the first place. "Food desert" is just catchy marketing speak for "private grocers don't think feeding you is worth the risk".
 
manny said:

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the jokes are low hanging and easy, but if the Maga base pivots it will be similar to how the evangelicals became Trump fans in the first place. They'll cling to something they see as more important than the...pedo shit...ffs....and just accept that the "good" Trump is doing outweighs the bad.

The evangelicals got into bed with Trump to finally win on abortion and they were willing to look beyond everything else about him to do it. The core of their claims of his godliness are entirely rooted in the abortion issue. MAQAnon types would have to do their own, similar mental gymnastics but I don't know if they can do it. There are a number of somewhat overlapping core groups that make up Trump's cultural circus. Evangelicals, White Nationalists, Qanon, Neonationalists. Each one has their own deal with the devil that they've made to support Trump.

- Evangelicals wanted the end of abortion and the government enforcement of "traditional family values"
- White nationalists wanted Trump to throw out "immigrants" which was really code for anyone not white, which is why birthright citizenship is also on the table for them as an issue
- Qanon knew that the deep state pedophiles were the real problem at the root of society and daddy Trump is the saviour who is doing battle with them
- Neonationalists wanted the end of aggressive american foreign policy, the reinvigoration of the state, the "Trump" economy to bring back good jobs, etc.

I don't think the Qanon types (which is a surprisingly large number) can be reasoned with here. They overlooked shit they didn't like about Trump specifically for this purpose and they're starting to clue in that he's the bad guy and they've been duped. At the same time, the neonationalists are revolting over bombing Iran, and the BBB so a pretty large bloc of Trump support is pretty angry right now and feeling disillusioned.
 
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