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and yet you think small baseball market Montreal can compete, tsk tsk
XPOFAN
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And yet you always have to be a dik
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but they never won when it counted and IIRC, Yankees always handed them their ass in the post season
rouah
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Well, the Yankees are a pretty unique organisation. Unlike the Cowboys in the NFL, they can actually hire players that are not overrated.
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Ellis is arguably the best Expo of all time.
wiseguy1
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Too bad he never really played to his potential, he had enough tools to be a hall of famer.
Dr.Phibes
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I think the "Valentine was the best Expo ever" talk is more myth than fact. He seldom walked, had average base running skills, and even his vaunted defensive prowess is overstated. Don't get me wrong, I loved him as an Expo, but there were many better players than he was.
No doubt (that whole team was high for most of that era) . . . but what a gun from right field, and just hit some monster home runs, before baseballs were juiced.
XPOFAN
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And players.
No one gave a crap about walks at the time so it is not fair to judge him on that now. It was only around 2000 that walks became more important than hits.
He was not a base stealer but he was faster than most.
He just didn't have the competitive drive but during his time with the Expos, he was better than Dawson, better than Cromartie, better than Carter, Parrish etc.
I saw him hit a ball further in Olympic Stadium than anyone not named Willie Stargell.
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One of the ones he crushed was a game we were at against St Louis in 1979.
He had hit into double plays his first two at bats so as usual, was getting booed his next time up. Fans were saying, come on Ellis, hit another double play etc
He turned around, glared at the crowd and then absolutely crushed the next pitch.
He had hit into double plays his first two at bats so as usual, was getting booed his next time up. Fans were saying, come on Ellis, hit another double play etc
He turned around, glared at the crowd and then absolutely crushed the next pitch.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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I don't think that Valentine was a better all-around player than Raines and since both of them had a hankering for nose candy it's a fair comparison. Valentine had a better arm and could hit for power but that's it. Raines could hit for power and for average, could run faster and certainly had more longevity. Raines was a 5-tool player. In fact, it was his arrival that made Valentine expendable in the first place. And I think it's safe to say that the Expos did just fine without Ellis but not so much after Raines left. Raines was good enough to make people forget Valentine. Ivan Calderon could not make people forget Raines.