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and remember, it will not be the Expos, it will be the Rays in drag, will play in a different league etc
If it were the Nationals moving back, you would have a point, but it is not the same team.
If it were the Nationals moving back, you would have a point, but it is not the same team.
It wasn't the Expos but the yo-yo's running the team. Some people think Jerry Jones is a yo-yo but you still love the Cowboys. The Chicago Cubs haven't won in a century but they have kept their fans.
Only Leafs fans have a right to bolt their team for greener pastures.
As long as they have the Expos name and of course Youppie... all is good.
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But I cultivated and nurtured my hate for the Mets so diligently...
the last thing Montreal needs is to have its stadium full of Yankees and Red Sox fans game in game out.
It still will not be the Expires, it will be the Rays in drag.
Jones never threatens to move, doesn't give away 3/4 of the team every year, doesn't take the team off TV/radio etc.....
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Maybe he should consider it.
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As for TV Jones couldn't take the Cowboys off the air even if he wanted to given the nature of the NFL TV deal. The only thing he could do is threaten a local blakout and only then if he didn't get a sell-out at the stadium which is never going to happen since Cowboys fan is rivalled only by Leafs fan in their delusions.
As far as the Expos go, you base your change of allegiance on the team but in reality it's because of the actions that a couple of bad owners took. After Bronfman we got the Brochu consortium which was too risk averse and, in the end, too cheap/poor to keep up with what MLB had become. They were well-intentioned enough at the start but they were delusional to think that if Charles Bronfman could no longer afford to run the team that they would be able to either. Bronfman could buy and sell every last one of those guys. None of them, individually or collectively, could match his financial clout.
Then we got the Siths who were operating on a completely different agenda. Their plan was a classic pump and dump. They bought the team with other people's money, squeezed out the other partners, tried to hold the fans and 3 levels of government hostage and when their demands weren't met, they went scorched earth on us. Then the league administered the coup de grace.
Remove the bad ownership and all those bad things go away. No need to abandon the team. I still watch baseball. I still have teams I like but my allegiance to the Expos remains. Owners are transitory just like players. In the end it's the uniform you're cheering for. No sane person would rather have Romo on their team than Brady or Manning but you root for teams, not players. I didn't like Brisebois. I didn't like the last Molson ownership regime. I didn't like Gauthier. I didn't like Jacques Martin. But I never stopped being a Habs fan. The Alouettes were defunct for a decade and I never stopped being an Als fan. Fandom is like that.
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I'm quite sure that the Rays owner is using Montreal for leverage right now. He wants what all owners want: a new stadium that he doesn't have to pay for. But like any type of threat, it only has the power to get things done if those being threatened know that the threat will be carried out if the demands are not met. If you threaten to move a team but everyone knows you can't or won't then they can ignore you. They have to believe the threat is real. At least a couple of teams (the White Sox and Mariners) used Tampa as leverage to get stadiums built in Chicago and Seattle but don't think for one second that they wouldn't have moved if those stadiums didn't get built. And Tampa still wound up getting a team anyway. So even though I know that the Rays owner would prefer to stay in Tampa, I have no reason to believe that he won't move them to Montreal if and when he doesn't get what he wants. And indications are that he won't get what he wants, just like Loria didn't get what he wanted when he owned the Expos. What happened there?
The taxpayers (in as much as Floridians even pay taxes at all) have zero interest in funding a new stadium for a baseball team that no one cares to watch even when it wins 90+ games and goes to the World Series. Going forward it appears as though the team will be a bottom feeder which even fewer people will care about. So once all possible avenues of financing have been exhausted the Rays will be seriously looking to move and Montreal represents the best available market currently without a franchise.
The taxpayers (in as much as Floridians even pay taxes at all) have zero interest in funding a new stadium for a baseball team that no one cares to watch even when it wins 90+ games and goes to the World Series. Going forward it appears as though the team will be a bottom feeder which even fewer people will care about. So once all possible avenues of financing have been exhausted the Rays will be seriously looking to move and Montreal represents the best available market currently without a franchise.
Next you are going to tell us that the sun doesn't in fact rise and set but that the Earth rotates.
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D'uhh. But what use is this forum if we have to stick to reality?
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The reality is that nature abhors a vacuum. Montreal represents a market for MLB's product. It's a market that is currently not making any money for MLB because there isn't a team there. Sooner or later they're going to catch on to the fact that there's no more money to be made in Tampa but there is money to be made in Montreal. When that happens, the Expos will return.
The only place I've ever seen where this sort of thing doesn't happen is LA with regard to the return of the NFL. But even there things are about to change. Within the next 2-5 years an NFL team (or maybe even two of them) is going to move into LA because it makes no sense not to.
The only place I've ever seen where this sort of thing doesn't happen is LA with regard to the return of the NFL. But even there things are about to change. Within the next 2-5 years an NFL team (or maybe even two of them) is going to move into LA because it makes no sense not to.
Who says there is money to be made in Montreal? It was a money pit last time.
Giants choked away chance to win it all tonight. Will be going seven.
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Let's hope.
