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They now have the worst rotation in the AL east, lol. They were counting on him so bad, they even thought they might make the playoffs this year. Too fkn funny, Toronto loses at everything, all the time.
XPOFAN
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Well except their team. :knife:
Ya, they have the population to support even perennial losers, ie. the maple leafs.
so you agree Montreal does not have the population to support a loser team ie Expos?
In the AL east, it would be very tough to field a consistent even .500 team. Boston/New York have the TV deals/owners to support large payrolls. How many cities can really support a mediocre team indefinitely, not many.
well based on what I read here, the Exrays would just get fans from opposing teams, won't need home grown support, just hope a ton of yanks and Ontarians show up to road games. Not the best way to run a team but hey, remember old Big Owe, he said see, we had 25000 for a game against the Red Sox and it shows Montreal is a baseball town even though 23000 were cheering for the Red Sox
XPOFAN
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Not sure why it concerns you as you don't even live here anymore
Dr.Phibes
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A$$es in the seats are a$$es in the seats. Not sure what your point is. Oh wait...yes, I know what your point is.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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The Rays have done all right the past few years even having to compete with the Yankees and Red Sox. Baltimore made the playoffs last year. Even NY and Boston have down years, despite the amount of money they spend. And with the expanded wild card system a team in Montreal would have a better shot at the post-season than the old Expos ever had.
Except the Rays had several top picks pan out for them which they don't have in their system anymore. Also, when you have one of the top young GMs who was able to make timely trades and accumulate a ton of young high end pitching talent with a very low end budget was almost a miracle.
Now, they are not going to be as good this year or in the near future, they don't have that same deep system or GM anymore. Their attendance is going to be even worse than it was before. Montreal in the AL east would most likely be short term success but long term failure. How on earth would Montreal compete with the massive TV contracts that US teams get? We are talking about 100m+ a year. The dodgers signed a 7B dollar tv deal. Rangers 3.1b. Yankees 385m/YR incl equity. Phillies 200m/yr.
Tell me how the Expos could compete with those numbers? They would need years of top 5 picking and then at some point a large payroll to support the team + free agents + a TV deal that would most likely be impossible to get. Now, you can say well Bell could be an investor but the truth is, Montreal wouldn't warrant the kind of money those other markets are getting for their tv portions.
WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou
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Every team except the Yankees and Red Sox (and even them to an extent) needs to draft well. The Expos used to have the best farm system in the majors and they needed it to be that good because they didn't have the cash or the cache to sign high-profile free agents. My point is that it can be done, as small market teams such as the Rays, A's and last season's KC Royals proved.
UWHabs
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Plus they revert release the numbers, but it's often argued that the Jays current TV deal is one of the top TV deals in MLB, at least if you look at the overall value to Rogers. If the Jays can do, yes it would certainly be harder for Montreal, but I don't think they necessarily do worse than any other mid to low market team
XPOFAN
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Denis Coderre talks up Expos on Florida trip
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/denis-coderre-talks-up-expos-on-florida-trip-1.2996814
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/denis-coderre-talks-up-expos-on-florida-trip-1.2996814
UWHabs
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BTW, for all baseball fans, Out of the Park Baseball is coming out Friday to those who pre-order by tomorrow (Monday otherwise): http://cdnsite.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0159/index.html
I also post this as a shameless plug, because this is the reason I've been posting at odd hours the last 6 months. I'm really proud of this new version we have out this year, and do highly recommend it to all baseball fans, especially if you're more excited by the management aspect of the game.
I also post this as a shameless plug, because this is the reason I've been posting at odd hours the last 6 months. I'm really proud of this new version we have out this year, and do highly recommend it to all baseball fans, especially if you're more excited by the management aspect of the game.
UWHabs
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If you thought it was awesome before, I can't even look at last year's version anymore, this year's is a frigton better.
I've been playing OOTP for a long time, though not as much now as I'm not that much of a baseball fan as before. I usually play historical leagues for a season or two instead of trying to GM small-market teams like the Expos/Pirates into contention. They keep on adding little features and improving the AI every year, which is pretty impressive as it's already extremely deep. Their hockey sim isn't that great, but being a first version there is some promise there.