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msun30 said:
to be fair, i think a lot of people forgot how unrealistic aspects of the first three indiana jones films were (especially temple of doom, although that is also largely considered the worst of the three). but complaints that he monkeys and boat scenes were unrealistic were over the top because that sort of stuff was in all three of the movies.

if you recall, there was the inflatable boat out of the airplane in temple of doom, in the last crusade they met a 700 year old knight, etc. etc.

granted, i thought the aliens thing was a bit silly--that was apparently all lucas, much to the chagrin of spielberg--but then again, the first three all had similar fantastical themes. the only difference was the undertones were religious in nature, not extra terrestrial, which for some reason people find more believable (although i would argue it made for more touching and compelling movies).


as for the appearance of the ufo and aliens in crystal skulls, they were meant to look silly and campy. i have a feeling that was spielberg's doing to pay hommage to the sci fi flicks of the 40s and 50s (just like the first three indy films were archetypically and characteristically similar to early action films).

i think indy 4 got caught up in the aura of the first three, which people hold in such reverence but i think lost sight of how silly they all were. indiana jones was/is a superhero, and to that end i thougth it was a good movie. it didn't stand up to raiders or the last crusade, but then, not a lot of movies do. but i went wanting to see a campy over the top superhero/action flick and to that ends i was quite satisifed.
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I'll argue that simply NOTHING in the first 3 movies compares to the ridiculous fridge scene, or the Tarzan and waterfall scenes in Crystal Skull.

The raft scene was unbelievable in Temple of Doom, but it did at least fit into the theme of the film, about how the gods made Indy fall from the sky to help them.


All Indy films are fantasy and over-the-top, but some of the crap in the latest film belongs in a loony-toons cartoon.
 
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I'll be interested to see how "Wall-E" does. I've read it only has 17 lines of dialogue, and is very long for an animated film. It sounds far different from any animated i've seen in a long time.
 
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JackBurton said:
You would never know it's good from the critics, they just crapped on the film badly. It's maybe the most underrated film i've seen this year.
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Let's be honest here: it was an awesome mindless action film with a lot of gruesome death scenes, but that's all it was. Calling a Rambo film underrated somehow rings hollow in my mind. He kills close to 300 people while remaining impervious to all attempts to hurt him, aside from the usual strategically placed non-lethal shoulder/arm wounds he always gets.

Tremendous action sequences? Yes. Gore and gratuitous violence aplomb? Yes. However, Stallone has the acting range of a Neanderthal skeleton encased in carbonite. I know that's not the point of the Ramo films but the latest installment of the Rocky series is a far superior creation in my opinion.

Edit: wonderful response to mbow's post, Jack. I'm about the biggest Indy fan there is and there was still a semblance of believeability and realism within the first three. Albeit, the second admittedly got a tad too fantastical, but it still maintained that element of realism. The films are meant to tow the line between the fantastic and unbelieveable, and the possible, but this film strayed far too over into the other realm. I also felt that so many of the scenes involving CGI were unnecessary. Lucas really needs to be stopped before he causes harm to others as well.
 
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The whole fridge scene could of easily been plausible. He jumps in the lead lined fridge, bomb goes off, it gets knocked to the other end of the house. He gets out and then there's the next scene of him being decontaminated at the base.
 
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JaysCyYoung said:
Let's be honest here: it was an awesome mindless action film with a lot of gruesome death scenes, but that's all it was. Calling a Rambo film underrated somehow rings hollow in my mind. He kills close to 300 people while remaining impervious to all attempts to hurt him, aside from the usual strategically placed non-lethal shoulder/arm wounds he always gets.

Tremendous action sequences? Yes. Gore and gratuitous violence aplomb? Yes. However, Stallone has the acting range of a Neanderthal skeleton encased in carbonite. I know that's not the point of the Ramo films but the latest installment of the Rocky series is a far superior creation in my opinion.
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What I meant was, the latest Rambo film is only 33% positive on Rotten-tomates, which is very low. Imo, it deserved more.

I wasn't as big a fan of Rocky Balboa as most, as I find it rather melodramatic and the acting bothered me much more in it than in Rambo, simply because it's much more of a character drama, and the acting is seen much more, and is a bigger part of the movie.

There's nothing wrong with an action film if it's done right. And imo, Stallone made a film very worthy of the franchise. My one complaint is let your damn grey hair show! Rambo lives in the jungle, he doesn't have access to hair dye.
 
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LeafHound69 said:
Was on the road and rented There Will Be Blood in the hotel.

Was asleep in 30 minutes.

I can appreciate all kinds of films, but for me, this flick was, literally, a snooze-fest.

I recall a lot of Daniel Day Lewis looking hard-bitten and squinting through his dialogue, but there was nothing there that engaged me enough to hold my interest.

Maybe I have undiagnosed ADD?
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I can see that reaction, but for me this was my favourite movie of the year. Its gonna be even better on blu-ray!
 
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AskewView said:
Spoiler below about Indy 4, read at own risk.........................
















The whole fridge scene could of easily been plausible. He jumps in the lead lined fridge, bomb goes off, it gets knocked to the other end of the house. He gets out and then there's the next scene of him being decontaminated at the base.
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Did you see how high it was thrown? To me it wasn't easily explained at all. It was too silly, even in an Indy film.
 
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I saw it, that's why I suggested it simply gets knocked across the room, not across the field.
 
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Saw Indy last night, and was pleasantly surprised. good flick.

as for the fridge scene - it was played for laughs. Obviously over the top - he came out of the fridge not only surviving it, but without even a scratch. it's supposed to be funny.
 
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zeke said:
Saw Indy last night, and was pleasantly surprised. good flick.

as for the fridge scene - it was played for laughs. Obviously over the top - he came out of the fridge not only surviving it, but without even a scratch. it's supposed to be funny.
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Yes it was played for laughs.

Were you ok seeing Shia turn into jungle boy with bad CGI monkeys?
 
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not to mention the fact that the first thing he sees is the gopher from caddyshack.
 
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Well, I just remembered something that explains everything over the top in the movie. Well.....a stupid fanboy rant/theory anyway.....

Indy drank from the cup of Christ. Dude is immortal. Should of had a flashback scene to that before the blast.
 
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AskewView said:
Well, I just remembered something that explains everything over the top in the movie. Well.....a stupid fanboy rant/theory anyway.....

Indy drank from the cup of Christ. Dude is immortal. Should of had a flashback scene to that before the blast.
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that's a good point, and it's something they should have touched on.
 
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Once Indy left the temple at the end of Last Crusade, he could no longer be immortal. You had to drink from it, and stay there, like that 700 year old knight did.
 
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POINT OUT YOUR PLOT HOLES ELSEWHERE! lol

anyone else get that Simpsons reference?
 
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I hate Shia LeBoof. Dude makes my blood boil. I can never enjoy a movie that he's in. And the hate began before he helped Michael Bay take a dump on my childhood in Transformers.
 
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Factinista said:
I hate Shia LeBoof. Dude makes my blood boil. I can never enjoy a movie that he's in. And the hate began before he helped Michael Bay take a dump on my childhood in Transformers.
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Was there some role that made you hate him, or..?
 
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Just watched IJ4 last night and it was a disappointment.

Being an Indy fan all my life, IJ4 was clearly just a shadow of the former trilogy. Yes, the plot is weak, Ford is a little slower and the action doesn't keep you at the edge of the seat anymore, but it's not just that. The movie's lost its 'soul'. Indy just doesn't seem as passionate about archeology as much as he used to, and lost his sense of humor, and ... he's just an old man.

It's still a decent blockbuster on its own, but definitely a disappointment to any IJ fan.
 
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