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JackBurton said:
Most shocking thing is Archie and Edith were in their 40's when the show started.
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People used to get old quicker half a century ago and they used to dress the part. I have photos of my grandparents from when they were in their 50's, younger than I am today, and they looked and dressed like senior citizens.
 
Montana said:
….and a ton of shows today couldn’t have been green lit back then when those shows were made…..

On the one hand we can’t ironically have racist folks spewing venom on network TV (which most viewers missed the irony in)…..and on the other we allow for more equal representation across the board, race, class, sexual orientation, etc etc
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Back then there were 3 networks, and you needed to grab eyeballs after the 6pm news.

Now you need to compete with literally everything to try and grab anyone's attention - it's no secret why everything has become so violent/shocking on TV, it literally has to be.
 
BG said:
Back then there were 3 networks, and you needed to grab eyeballs after the 6pm news.

Now you need to compete with literally everything to try and grab anyone's attention - it's no secret why everything has become so violent/shocking on TV, it literally has to be.
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and society just progressed.
 
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WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
They make shows that are more vulgar today but not nearly as racially charged as All in the Family was.
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The Wire
Dear White People
Insecure
OJ Made in America
Underground Railroad (mini series)
Lovecraft Country
Black-ish

….and if you very specifically needed it to be a show with a character as racist as Archie Bunker….

Tucker Carlson.
Sean Hannity.



WeHaveMoreCupsThanYou said:
People today are literally triggered by hearing certain words uttered, ironically or not, and have no sense of humor.
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nah, Louie or Fleabag, or Euphoria, or dozens of other shows have vastly wilder shit than any of that stuff in the 80’s.

People would have had a stroke if you played most CSI:Miami episodes on network television in the 80’s….
 
people talk about real life personal problems on television now, in a way that people didn’t even discuss in their real lives in the 80’s.


So the idea current folks are the ones who are triggered snowflakes now, is laughable. Those dorks back then were scared of their own feelings ffs.
 
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such a Ralph way to die too. Oh and Howard sorta implied that he was bi so I guess the "Ralph is a fag" parody songs/jokes must have hit close to home. Oh and vindication for Ed Torian's lie detector test!
 
JackBurton said:
That show went on way too long.
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It only really ran from 71 to 79. Then it changed to Archie Bunker's Place with (aside from O'Connor) a whole new cast and despite being completely unnecessary and not edgy, topical, or in any way good, somehow limped along as a G-rated family show until it was put out of its misery in 1983.

And as shocking and revolutionary as it was when it premiered, let's remember that All in the Family was based on a British show called "Till Death Us Do Part", which ran on the BBC from 1965 to 67. The Archie Bunker character in that show "Alf Garnett" was not a "loveable bigot" in the way Archie was. He was a much more realistically portrayed racist and the first thing Norman Lear did when he adapted that show for an American audience was to make Archie likeable. Alf Garnett was not likeable to anyone except actual racists.
 
oscarheyman said:

View: https://x.com/alisonmartino/status/1409640529063677957?s=20


Look for Bob Denver ("Gilligan") & note the person right beside him.

(Carroll O'Connor auditioned for the role of "The Skipper" on Gilligan's Island)
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I tried to enlarge it as best I could and was able to name this many. There's also a couple of others who's faces I know but I can't place the names.

Maureen Stapleton, Walter Cronkite, Alfred Hitchcock, Mary Tyler Moore, Ellen Corby, Gene Rayburn, George Burns, Nancy Walker, Danny Kaye, Leslie Uggams, Telly Savalas, Eric Scott, Kami Cotler, Bonnie Franklin, Robert Conrad, Eva Gabor, Ted Knight, Tim Conway, Danny Thomas, Bob Keeshan, Dennis Weaver, Sally Struthers, Betty White, Charles Kuralt, Eric Sevareid, Esther Rolle, Ed Asner, Lucille Ball, Don Knotts, Mary Elizabeth McDonough, Erin Moran, Jamie Farr, Mike Wallace, Sherman Hemsley, Isabel Sanford, Judy Norton, Carroll O’Connor, Tony Randall, Bob Newhart, Hal Linden, Jon Walmsley, Georgia Engel, Dickie Smothers, David Harper, Bill Macy, Ken Berry, Vicky Lawrence, Buddy Ebsen, John Forsythe, Steve Allen, Carol Burnett, Jim Nabors, Bea Arthur, Loretta Swit, Ed Bradley, Andy Griffith, Demond Wilson, Bert Convy, Dan Rather, Mike Conners, Bob Barker, John Amos, Rob Reiner, Jack Lord, Dick Van Dyke.
 
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