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Montana said:
It admittedly the whole thing is pretty intense, but I think it’s easily the best piece of film or television I’ve seen in 5+ years….about a topic that imo hasn’t been grappled with properly in this way, in any other show or film.

The fact each episode is done in “one” single long take makes it all the more impressive, but that continuity makes it all hit home that much harder.

Erin Doherty’s (princess Anne in the Crown) is remarkable as well…..but pretty much everyone in it crushes it.

It’s maybe the best show I’ve seen when it comes to social commentary that looks at multiple layers of influence, like The Wire did.


A++ 10/10 Masterpiece, imo…..must watch.


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Ah man just finished that's a crazy amazing vital watch.
 
I've had more intense conversations over that Adolescence show then over any other piece of media I can recall. My wife and I are still talking over it a week later. Our daughter is hitting a similar age so we are obviously sensitive to the themes, but my god that show has hit us hard. Last night at dinner we discussed it in depth and committed to doubling down on our restrictions with our kid and her access to social media. We agreed to also reduce our phone use.

During dinner we noticed a table right behind ours with three young women (mid twenties) and as we watched them we noticed not one of them looked at their phone or took a selfie. They just laughed and talked intensely and were engaged. After dinner my wife approached them and said how impressed she was with their friendship and what a great model they were to our daughter who was with us. They said that the social media is not important when you find the right people. Anyways sorry for the wall of text!

Watch that show....unless you have suffered tragedy with a child then maybe hold off. Intense isn't quite a strong enough word.
 
SundinsTooth said:
I've had more intense conversations over that Adolescence show then over any other piece of media I can recall. My wife and I are still talking over it a week later. Our daughter is hitting a similar age so we are obviously sensitive to the themes, but my god that show has hit us hard. Last night at dinner we discussed it in depth and committed to doubling down on our restrictions with our kid and her access to social media. We agreed to also reduce our phone use.

During dinner we noticed a table right behind ours with three young women (mid twenties) and as we watched them we noticed not one of them looked at their phone or took a selfie. They just laughed and talked intensely and were engaged. After dinner my wife approached them and said how impressed she was with their friendship and what a great model they were to our daughter who was with us. They said that the social media is not important when you find the right people. Anyways sorry for the wall of text!

Watch that show....unless you have suffered tragedy with a child then maybe hold off. Intense isn't quite a strong enough word.
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Ya. Pre kid me would probably love it. But damn.
 
zeke said:
Ah man just finished that's a crazy amazing vital watch.
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I knew you’d get it, vital is exactly the word to describe it…..I’m still floored by how brilliant it was.

For a topic that is so core to today’s societal issues it’s criminal how poorly art has tackled the subject in film or television until now:….so for Stephen Graham to crush it to this degree while taking it on, was pretty incredible to see.

Very happy to see it #1 on Canadian Netflix charts the past two weeks.
 
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SundinsTooth said:
I've had more intense conversations over that Adolescence show then over any other piece of media I can recall. My wife and I are still talking over it a week later. Our daughter is hitting a similar age so we are obviously sensitive to the themes, but my god that show has hit us hard. Last night at dinner we discussed it in depth and committed to doubling down on our restrictions with our kid and her access to social media. We agreed to also reduce our phone use.
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I’m not gonna lie, I was kinda dying waiting for responses discussing this show, because I was half expecting this thread to become wall to wall Adolescence talk for weeks on end once people got around to it, haha.

My best friend has two daughters and he had a similar sit down with his wife to address social media use etc…


...but I also think an important discussion is on how to help kids deal with any bulling etc, and not giving people any reaction to it, and/or laughing it off/being self deprecating about it if//when it does occur…..because whether it’s in high school, a pro wrestling locker room, jail, or on a jock filled sports team….the #1 rule is to “no sell” any hazing you run into, because whoever has the biggest reaction to it, whether it’s freaking out over it, melting down, or cowering from it, that’s who they’ll continue to target.

If they get no reaction…..or the target laughs it off & rolls with it, it sucks any & all enjoyment from it for them, and they lose all interest.

(I think the show kind of indirectly comments on this where the fathers story about dancing & making a fool of himself, is the lesson he should have been trying to instil in his son instead of attempting to “toughen him up” with football & boxing etc…)
SundinsTooth said:
During dinner we noticed a table right behind ours with three young women (mid twenties) and as we watched them we noticed not one of them looked at their phone or took a selfie. They just laughed and talked intensely and were engaged. After dinner my wife approached them and said how impressed she was with their friendship and what a great model they were to our daughter who was with us. They said that the social media is not important when you find the right people. Anyways sorry for the wall of text!
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That’s a great example of the best possible outcome, but it is a tough thing where so many kids can get ostracized from the pack if they aren’t on socials at all, so I get why parents have a tough time knowing where to draw the line.

Giving kids unfettered unsupervised internet access in their rooms though, where you have zero idea who they are communicating with or what they’re reading, is definitely a recipe for potential disaster.


SundinsTooth said:
Watch that show....unless you have suffered tragedy with a child then maybe hold off. Intense isn't quite a strong enough word.
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100%.

I think even for some parents who faced tragedy it could be cathartic to watch, particularly the final episode with the parents….but it’s unquestionably heavy heavy stuff that could trigger some folks.



Too important to miss though for 90% of people, and I think giving it your full attention, not being on your phone or laptop while watching it, etc and try to watch each episode in one uninterrupted stretch ….so you can get fully immersed in it, and get the full impact of the manner it’s shot, is something the show deserves.
 
worm said:
Ya. Pre kid me would probably love it. But damn.
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As hard a watch as it is, particularly for any newish parents…..I think it’s probably even more important to watch for any potential lessons one takes from it, to avoid ever having to deal with anything remotely close to the scenario depicted in the show.

Even if it just gives a parent a different window into their kids lives at school/online, and makes them think about how they navigate all that going forward, that alone makes it worth the watch.

I’d say the potential benefit from watching it, thinking about it, discussing it, researching possible solutions etc afterwards….makes any difficulty or uncomfortableness watching it, well worth enduring.

/2 cents.
 
Montana said:
I’m not gonna lie, I was kinda dying waiting for responses discussing this show, because I was half expecting this thread to become wall to wall Adolescence talk for weeks on end once people got around to it, haha.

My best friend has two daughters and he had a similar sit down with his wife to address social media use etc…


...but I also think an important discussion is on how to help kids deal with any bulling etc, and not giving people any reaction to it, and/or laughing it off/being self deprecating about it if//when it does occur…..because whether it’s in high school, a pro wrestling locker room, jail, or on a jock filled sports team….the #1 rule is to “no sell” any hazing you run into, because whoever has the biggest reaction to it, whether it’s freaking out over it, melting down, or cowering from it, that’s who they’ll continue to target.

If they get no reaction…..or the target laughs it off & rolls with it, it sucks any & all enjoyment from it for them, and they lose all interest.

(I think the show kind of indirectly comments on this where the fathers story about dancing & making a fool of himself, is the lesson he should have been trying to instil in his son instead of attempting to “toughen him up” with football & boxing etc…)


That’s a great example of the best possible outcome, but it is a tough thing where so many kids can get ostracized from the pack if they aren’t on socials at all, so I get why parents have a tough time knowing where to draw the line.

Giving kids unfettered unsupervised internet access in their rooms though, where you have zero idea who they are communicating with or what they’re reading, is definitely a recipe for potential disaster.




100%.

I think even for some parents who faced tragedy it could be cathartic to watch, particularly the final episode with the parents….but it’s unquestionably heavy heavy stuff that could trigger some folks.



Too important to miss though for 90% of people, and I think giving it your full attention, not being on your phone or laptop while watching it, etc and try to watch each episode in one uninterrupted stretch ….so you can get fully immersed in it, and get the full impact of the manner it’s shot, is something the show deserves.
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That experienced cop being shook to the core after having to spend a couple hours at his son's school was stomach turning and makes me want to put my girl into a monastery.

Like you said so many amazing scenes in four short hours.
 
SundinsTooth said:
That experienced cop being shook to the core after having to spend a couple hours at his son's school was stomach turning and makes me want to put my girl into a monastery.
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….that needle drop, as his son explains how badly he’s been floundering around clueless…not understanding how every heart on her comment was effectively another student mocking him, from the kids perspective.

SundinsTooth said:
Like you said so many amazing scenes in four short hours.
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Looking forward to doing a rewatch, cause there’s tons I missed on the first watch…..but even stuff like the socially inept security guard, being a grown up version of the kid, awkwardly trying to gin up a conversation with the psychologist.
 
zeke said:
when the real reason your movie bombed is the white lady.



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Gal Gadot may not be anything close to the world's greatest actor, but people liked her well enough back in 2017 when the first Wonder Woman movie got good reviews and made a ton of money.

I remain convinced that most of the hate and backlash to her since is due to the fact that she's Israeli, and hating Jews has become cool again worldwide since the first Wonder Woman film.
 
She became the butt of plenty of jokes ever since doing that ‘Imagine’ video during the pandemic.

….also not sure she’s had a hit since Wonder Woman.


….but yeah, any Pro-Israeli celebs will face their fair share of online hatred I’m sure. (As would any pro-Palestinian ones)
 
She's super hot and did a good wonder woman and people were pleasantly surprised.

But she's an objectively laughable actress who still keeps getting cast in major roles for some reason.

I think her acting and that imagine video has given people plenty of legitimate reasons to mock her.

Meanwhile, her co-star is a legitimately very talented actress and singer but is getting absolutely crucified just for being sympathetic to palestine and not being white enough.
 
Disney did fuck-up the Snow White film bad. They tried so hard to please everyone and it's blown-up in their face.
Ironically, they reacted to Peter Dinklage's criticism and it cost people jobs.
 
Just watched the trailer for the first time, and I’m amazed anyone has an issue with Snow White….it looks far better than a Snow White film has any right to be.

Goofy to care about the race of the main actress or whether she saves the day or Prince Charming does (if you’re worried about male representation in film as the hero’s, you need to take a look in the mirror and pull yourself together)….

As for Gadot, I’m kinda impressed with how much she looks like the evil step mother from the animated version.


Can’t see any reason this can’t be Jungle Book or Lion King, which were both great watches, despite my skepticism going in.
 
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