OT: The News Thread

[SundinsTooth]

Hmm, but that can't be right. I mean thousands of years of tradition could never be wrong, could it?

 

[SundinsTooth]

That's exactly the point though, the UK allowed an Iranian backed nation state to purchase the chemicals necessary to produce "WMD's", after said nation state had been in a state of civil war for 10-11 months already. Whether it was a bit of bureaucratic bumbling, or a foreign policy initiative has to be determined.

Yeah - it's ugly for sure. I would lean to bumble though...just a greedy little oversight perhaps.

Limiting something as easily produced as sodium fluoride and hoping it prevents a nation intent on using WMD's from doing so, seems naive. I would love to get more info on this story...something to follow for sure.

 

[MindzEye]

Yeah - it's ugly for sure. I would lean to bumble though...just a greedy little oversight perhaps.

I would like to, but I have a hard time shaking away just how hard the CIA tried to blame the '88 Iraqi gas attack against the Kurds, on Iran at the time. We take for granted now that Saddam gassed the Kurds, but all of the "official" intel at the time said that it was the Iranians. "The West" has a habit of manufacturing consent whenever needed.

 

[SundinsTooth]

I would like to, but I have a hard time shaking away just how hard the CIA tried to blame the '88 Iraqi gas attack against the Kurds, on Iran at the time. We take for granted now that Saddam gassed the Kurds, but all of the "official" intel at the time said that it was the Iranians. "The West" has a habit of manufacturing consent whenever needed.

I defer to you here, you certainly have read up a lot more on it than I have.

I would love to see some rationale behind these embargoes though....you gotta wonder how much economics come into some of these decisions.

 

[JaysCyYoung]

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/201...ildren-happier_n_3388498.html?just_reloaded=1

Isn't that because gay couples tend to be wealthier than the rest of the population on average? That would only make sense.

 

[JaysCyYoung]

Let me guess, he got into a fight with JCY?

I'm not going to lie: I would totally take the gold chain to re-sell somewhere and wouldn't feel remotely bad about it - one of the few occasions where morality would go out the window just because of who he is.

 

[blacksheep]

Isn't that because gay couples tend to be wealthier than the rest of the population on average? That would only make sense.

I'd say it's more about them being more committed to each other than straight couples. Nothing screws up children more than being used as pawns in the parents' attacks on each other.
Money can't buy you love for more than one night at a time.

 

[blacksheep]

You get the sense that kid is a cocky little bastard with a really big mouth and he frequently says and does stuff that makes people want to smash him in the face.

In other words, your idol.

 

[zeke]

Isn't that because gay couples tend to be wealthier than the rest of the population on average? That would only make sense.

I'd say it probably has more to do with gay parents having to make a conscious, informed decision to have a kid, while so many kids of straight parents just sorta happen without any planning or consideration.

but the reasons don't really matter as much as the fact that gay parents don't seem to be ruining society so much.

 

[JohnnyHolmes]

I'd say it probably has more to do with gay parents having to make a conscious, informed decision to have a kid, while so many kids of straight parents just sorta happen without any planning or consideration.

but the reasons don't really matter as much as the fact that gay parents don't seem to be ruining society so much.

and then there is this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2043345/The-California-boy-11-undergoing-hormone-blocking-treatment.html

The lesbian parents of an 11-year-old boy who is undergoing the process of becoming a girl last night defended the decision, claiming it was better for a child to have a sex change when young.

 

[SundinsTooth]

Yeah gender identity disorder is a horrible thing...happens to a lot of people. Probably a lucky thing to have two parents that can easily relate to it.

 

[zeke]

yikes.

 

[corksens]

Gender-bending stuff is going to cause alot of headaches in the future.

Poor kid.

 

[JohnnyHolmes]

Yeah gender identity disorder is a horrible thing...happens to a lot of people. Probably a lucky thing to have two parents that can easily relate to it.

Not a decision for an 8 year old to make.

 

[zeke]

not really related, but a buddy of mine was born with dual genitalia. his parents chose to make him a girl at the time, he ended up being extremely male anyways.

 

[SundinsTooth]

Not a decision for an 8 year old to make.

How do you know? Have you researched it?

I haven't. I haven't so much as spent 3 minutes looking at it, but if I had an eight year old suffering from it, I certainly would put in the effort to learn everything that has been published about it.

Who knows where current research lies?

IF left untreated and suicide rates are exponentially higher, doesn't it make sense to act quickly?


Like I said, I don't have a clue about it, but to try and point it out as an example of the pitfalls of gay parenting seems very premature.

 

[Leafovic]

+1

I'd say it probably has more to do with gay parents having to make a conscious, informed decision to have a kid, while so many kids of straight parents just sorta happen without any planning or consideration.

but the reasons don't really matter as much as the fact that gay parents don't seem to be ruining society so much.

 

[Leafovic]

I know a gay couple who went through the adoption process. (long and emotional process) Since gay couples know it will be a long, complicated, and emotional process, the decision to have kids is not taken lightly. They were adopting from a mother who was pregnant and was looking to give it away, but the mom could have changed her mind at any time. They had to give up their privacy and be open to inspections, they took classes, etc Thankfully both of them had good jobs, one of them is a civil engineer and the other guy works for Microsoft in some capacity.

As a result of this complexity, I do think gay parents consider their financial situation more. Down the line I'd like to have kids but I would never have a child until I was comfortable financially and started my career. I'm finished my Bachelors but doing more school for the next few years and then I'll be ready to think about that.

 

[TheCountofMonteCristo]

Isn't that because gay couples tend to be wealthier than the rest of the population on average? That would only make sense.

gay males yes, lesbians tend to be poorer from what I understand

 

[JohnnyHolmes]

How do you know? Have you researched it?

I haven't. I haven't so much as spent 3 minutes looking at it, but if I had an eight year old suffering from it, I certainly would put in the effort to learn everything that has been published about it.

Who knows where current research lies?

IF left untreated and suicide rates are exponentially higher, doesn't it make sense to act quickly?


Like I said, I don't have a clue about it, but to try and point it out as an example of the pitfalls of gay parenting seems very premature.

Well as a matter of fact, I have done a little research on the topic, and the first thing to correct you on is that sexual orientation and gender identity are two separate things.

Also, two moron lesbians don't necessarily reflect on gay parents as a group, but I'm pretty certain that straight parents wouldn't be giving an 8 year old boy hormone blocking pills and paving the way to gender re-assignment surgery.