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TheCountofMonteCristo said:
you can blame him for a lot of things but for a eulogy for his father? that is low even for you
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i damn well CAN "blame" him for that eulogy. it was overwrought, overdramatic, and classless. he took advantage of a national stage to make a partisan political speech and take potshots at his father's political opponents when they had NO CHANCE to answer back or defend themselves. the contrast between how joe clark and brian mulroney behaved before and during that funeral and how that spoiled little puke behaved was stark.

both clark and mulroney gave trudeau warm praise and expressed sincere condolences, and maintained their composure when the gutless little puke skewered them during the funeral and the camera panned to their faces. the gutless little puke railed against them with thinly-veiled insults about their policies and their actions, which was totally uncalled-for in that setting and at that time.

i know i was probably never going to be predisposed to liking the son of PET, but from that second forward i despised the little ba$tard, and everything he's done since has reinforced that. he is crass, pompous, phony, spoiled, and pretentious.
 
So, to be clear, criticizing santorum for using the death of his son to support his political views is classless.

However, criticizing Trudeau for political comments during his eulogy for his father is something conservatives must do to defend themselves...
 
Cpt. Koivu said:
So, to be clear, criticizing santorum for using the death of his son to support his political views is classless.

However, criticizing Trudeau for political comments during his eulogy for his father is something conservatives must do to defend themselves...
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will be nice to see how Krauthammer gets out of that corner
 
Justin Trudeau betrays his political immaturity and narcissism in suggesting that his commitment to a united Canada is dependent on whether the Conservative government validates his personal values, say prominent political analysts.

"This guy is clearly self-indulgent; he really does think everything is about him and his feelings," Barry Cooper, a political theorist at the University of Calgary, said Tuesday in commenting on statements Trudeau made in a recent French-language interview. "That's a measure of his lightweight status in the firmament of deep-thinking Liberals."
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"If had read the quote and not known who said it, I would have attributed it to an adolescent," said Tom Darby, a political philosopher at Carleton University in Ottawa. "It does not matter what party or even what policies one favours, the quote is factually untrue, irresponsible, and even treasonous. He (Trudeau) says that his father was an intellectual and that he is not. About this he is correct, which his childish statement proves."
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Robert Asselin, a political scientist at the University of Ottawa who specializes in Canada-Quebec affairs, noted the inherent narcissism of Trudeau's attitude. "That's the first observation I would make. But also, government policy should not dictate one's preference for secession or not. Secession is a very grave action and you don't even suggest it (as a possibility) because you don't share certain beliefs or values of the government of the moment."
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"Politics is not about personal feelings," said Cooper. "It's about the ethics of responsibility. He was elected as a member of Parliament from a particular constituency. He was not elected in his own right because he has these sensitive feelings about various things. Whether he likes it or not, he's supposed to be a responsible political leader, and he's clearly incapable of understanding what his job is."
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"Young Trudeau is living out the consequences of his father's vision of what the country should look like, that the state exists to compel us to like one another, to think alike, that we all have to have the same values," said Cooper. "You've got this kind of narcissistic response that the state only exists to reflect your values. There's nothing to be patriotic about (and) so you can indulge whatever idiosyncratic policy preferences you might have. [/B]Trudeau Junior reflects this attitude, and for a lot of people his age and younger, they probably think this is a perfectly legitimate way of looking at politics."
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Trudeau's behaviour raises questions about his political intelligence, and his potential as a future Liberal leader, Asselin said. "I'm always surprised to see his name as a potential candidate (for the Liberal leadership) because I've never seen anything substantive from him that would make me believe he would be a good leader. What is his vision of Canada? I would not be able to tell you what it is. I know what his father stood for, but I don't know what Justin Trudeau's is."
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And what might Pierre Trudeau have thought of his son's statement? "I don't think his father would have been happy at all to read it. He would probably spank him on his behind, and say, 'What have you said? This is not right.'"
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http://www.canada.com/news/Trudeau+...ism+analysts/6153694/story.html#ixzz1mUCNs6kH
 
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Cpt. Koivu said:
So, to be clear, criticizing santorum for using the death of his son to support his political views is classless.

However, criticizing Trudeau for political comments during his eulogy for his father is something conservatives must do to defend themselves...
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two entirely, utterly unrelated things. i have said here that i thought comments trashing how santorum and his family decided to mourn the death of their newborn were offside. i still believe that. in that case though, at least santorum had the ability to respond to the criticism, and perhaps the responsibility to, because he was actively in the political arena.

in the case of the gutless little trudeau puke, he decided to take a completely uncalled-for, gratuitous political swipe at two former PMs, who had just said very gracious things about his father, who were long gone from the political arena, and in a forum where they couldn't possibly respond.
 
JaysCyYoung said:
Justin Trudeau betrays his political immaturity and narcissism in suggesting that his commitment to a united Canada is dependent on whether the Conservative government validates his personal values, say prominent political analysts.















http://www.canada.com/news/Trudeau+...ism+analysts/6153694/story.html#ixzz1mUCNs6kH
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its pretty amazing how many times the word "narcissism" was used across those articles. i think lots of people had the same interpretation that we did on this one.
 
This story is just insane:

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Ludovic Masciave, 36, was driving his car through the Arly Gorge in the French Alps when a 20 ton boulder crashed onto the roof of his vehicle. Amazingly, Masciave survived the crash and is recovering in a local hospital, according to Landov.

"I remember the impact of the rock," Masciave told French newspaper Le Parisien. "I'd been driving slowly at between 40 and 50 kilometres [25 to 31 miles] an hour when suddenly there was a terrible shock which brought the vehicle to a sudden halt. I immediately lost consciousness."

Analyzing the photo, it's nearly impossible to imagine how Masciave escaped from the vehicle alive. The entire vehicle appears smashed under the weight of the 20 ton rock. The Daily Mail reports that the vehicle was so damaged that rescue workers couldn't even determine the make and model of Masciave's vehicle. Naturally, they assumed the driver didn't survive. And yet he lived, despite injuries that include flattened lungs and several broken ribs.
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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/side...rvives-20-ton-boulder-dropping-220605976.html
 
i bet you the back of his seat must have collapsed pretty quickly and allowed him to get flat, so that the weight of the rock was propped up by the frame/dash and he had just enough room underneath to survive. looking at it, it DOES look pretty miraculous.
 
Sad part is, he was a better Met and won his WS with the Mets after the people in Montreal pretty much booed him out of town in 1984
 
corksens said:
You're still hanging on divorce jokes? They didn't hurt at first and they DEFINITELY don't hurt now. Try harder, you sad little man.
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heh. You're the one that called me pathetic. You "sad little man."

corksens said:
Stop lying.
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No response to the facts?

corksens said:
Yes. Dealing with a handful of French terrorists is far better than the entire economy tanking for 4 years. At least from a policy standpoint.
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Revisionist history is great, isn't it? Did anybody know at the time how many members the FLQ had? And no, being under threat of being kidnapped and killed by some nutcases is NOT far better than some policy changes to deal with a deep recession.
 
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